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| Quote ="ploinerrhino"Certainly not a good passer but jesus when were really struggling he was our only attacking threat , good luck Brad you will make someone a great number 2 hooker and i won't be suprised when you come back to haunt us . At the moment all we have got is a make weight out of position player (who admittedley can tackle
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Hard to disagree. And worryingly again last week was our main / only attacking threat. He’s a dangerous impact sub with heavily ingrained headless chickenitis and inconsistent passing. He’s scored plenty of tries and changed plenty of games. We have had a lot of players in the last 5 years who have made much less impact. He’s made a fair bit happen behind a fairly poor pack and endless changing halves. Overall think it’s right he’s going but we’ve had a lot worse.
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| Smith has spoken about a team first mentality in almost every interview he has done. He's even reluctant to pick out players who stood out to him in post-game pressers because he doesn't appear to want to hype any individuals.
Dwyer is the ultimate individual, which is why he gets so many tries from dummy half. Follows his instincts in attack ignoring other players, and poor distribution. I think it's just a huge clash of styles an philosophies.
Tbf to Brad, he seems a good bloke, and has worked hard for the team. Agar seemed to love him, and always made him run up defense to put pressure on last tackle plays. Again though, it's not how Smith seems to operate.
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| There isn’t many ‘must keeps’ in our team. And Brad certainly isn’t one of those …..
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| He had pretty much signed for Wakey for this year until Leeming got injured.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"Expected wasn't it. This means we have another approx £80k to play with on the SC. There's tonnes of space free on the cap for next year, we really ought to be signing some much better players.'"
When you start recruiting in October your options are really limited as we have seen in recent seasons
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| That's always been a massive failure point for GH I think.
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| Thought he was excellent off the bench last night. Played with a point to prove. We'll miss him imo as an impact player but we can't really keep him and improve the front row when we've got Leeming Johnson and Oconnor
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| Laughed my socks off last night when they started comparing him with Cunningham and Lowes. Wonder where the Dwyer statue will go.
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| Quote ="RogerMoore"Laughed my socks off last night when they started comparing him with Cunningham and Lowes. Wonder where the Dwyer statue will go.'"
Yeh, I clocked that.
Absolutely ridiculous.
The Sky Sports commentary is getting more and more laughable.
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| Quote ="Simmo71"Yeh, I clocked that.
Absolutely ridiculous.
The Sky Sports commentary is getting more and more laughable.'"
Phil Clarke after half an hour of us battering Wigan..
"For a team like Leeds in the lower half of the table, low in confidence, struggling for try scores, anyway over the line will do…”
Would that be the same team with the best attack in the comp since Rohan took over Phil?
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| Fortunately his coach has more integrity and class ,rightly giving credit to us for outplaying them!!
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| He's done 5 seasons 114 apps and counting won a CC winners medal left his mark g served the club well good look in his next club
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"He's done 5 seasons 114 apps and counting won a CC winners medal left his mark g served the club well good look in his next club'"
Fully agree
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| True. In some very grim recent seasons, he's provided some excitement.
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| Should the Dog stay or go?
For me it’s a stay for 1 more year
What do you guys think and why?
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| Go.
We have Johnson and the other young lad and Leeming.
Dwyer puts in max effort and works hard and when you're on a roll he can get over the line...but h8s service from DH is woeful. It kills our attack and makes us easy to counter.
We just don't need him blocking the young players
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| Quote ="Emagdnim13"Go.
We have Johnson and the other young lad and Leeming.
Dwyer puts in max effort and works hard and when you're on a roll he can get over the line...but h8s service from DH is woeful. It kills our attack and makes us easy to counter.
We just don't need him blocking the young players'"
Johnson has shown nothing so far, oconnor is now ahead of him behind Leeming.
Jonah Parsons us very highly rated as well, people creaming over Johnson reckon he’s nowhere’s near as good as some think, championship player.
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| Quote ="Emagdnim13"Go.
We have Johnson and the other young lad and Leeming.
Dwyer puts in max effort and works hard and when you're on a roll he can get over the line...but h8s service from DH is woeful. It kills our attack and makes us easy to counter.
We just don't need him blocking the young players'"
Go, for reasons clearly established over the last five years. If we want change we have to prepared to make strong decisions and stick with them, not get sentimental every time a player does something good. Worth baring in mind that Brad is currently our 3rd choice hooker behind Leeming and young Connor. I've enjoyed watching the best of Brad while he's been here, but the games where he has been 8/10 have been outnumbered by the ones where he has been 5/10.
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| He's marmite isn't he.
Hero when we win, villain when we lose.
He's undoubtedly dangerous when darting from DH, but can be totally headless.
RS wants more control from DH.
And we need it if we are really going to consistently compete at the top.
I think he'll be gone.
He'll deffo get another gig in SL.
Good luck to him.
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| Quote ="ArthurClues"Worth baring in mind that Brad is currently our 3rd choice hooker behind Leeming and young Connor.'"
And it'd be a remarkably injury free season if we didn't need the third hooker. Leeming stays fit and all's ok. But O'Connor and Johnson together leaves us weak in a key position imo. Might be ok if we were at an early stage of a rebuild but our sights need to be set higher. I'd offer Brad a year though someone else would probably offer better.
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| Quote ="Clearwing"And it'd be a remarkably injury free season if we didn't need the third hooker. Leeming stays fit and all's ok. But O'Connor and Johnson together leaves us weak in a key position imo. Might be ok if we were at an early stage of a rebuild but our sights need to be set higher. I'd offer Brad a year though someone else would probably offer better.'"
We've got one in Johnson. I guarantee you he'll take up a lot less on the cap than Dywer does. We certainly don't need four. Look at Saints - Roby is currently in the halves and Lussick is starting, but they aren't playing a hooker off the bench. Personally I think Leeming should be looking to push himself and play more minutes every week. Rob Burrow was incredible as an impact hooker, but he was a totally unique player. Think we fallen into the trap of thinking that is the only model. Not necessarily so.
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| Quote ="ArthurClues"We've got one in Johnson. I guarantee you he'll take up a lot less on the cap than Dywer does. We certainly don't need four. Look at Saints - Roby is currently in the halves and Lussick is starting, but they aren't playing a hooker off the bench. Personally I think Leeming should be looking to push himself and play more minutes every week. Rob Burrow was incredible as an impact hooker, but he was a totally unique player. Think we fallen into the trap of thinking that is the only model. Not necessarily so.'"
Your last point is a good one, dual hookers isn't the only way. But it can be, especially if they offer different things. But it's equally true that some fall into the trap of thinking a hooker's only role is accurate distribution from dummy. However they also need to defend the ruck. O'Connor has this in his armoury but whether he can put in 80 mins for a run of games is debatable - he'd be an exceptional young player if he could. Johnson hasn't convinced me in this department as yet. So like I said, if Leeming stays fit then all's good but I'm concerned if he doesn't.
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| Go for me…..his ‘highlights reel’ will certainly look impressive and no doubt over the last few years he’s contributed massively to us winning games under Agar but that’s when he was often our only attacking threat given the lack of a game plan and/or attacking structure.
Looks like Smith is now sorting that out so he becomes a bit of a luxury player for me and our ‘better’ attack further highlights his weaknesses in my opinion which are still his poor passing and distribution and his often ‘headless chicken’ style.
Look at last night as an example….looks like he was great because two decisions he made ended up working….but so nearly could have messed everything up.
As one of the players said in interview after the game, we had a move set up left and he goes on a solo run right, ends up kicking but scores.
Last play in golden point….not sure if it was the last tackle or not, but Sezer in the pocket for the winning drop goal attempt, he darts off on a solo run, gets tackled but fortunately ends up slinging the ball back for Zak to pass to Sezer who dummies and scores the winning try. If it was last tackle and he gets wrapped up with the ball in the tackle we lose a golden chance to win.
That’s two major points in the game where it ends up coming off, but so nearly messed up both so it looks good but could have easily cost us.
Bags of effort and energy and overall he’s looked good for us in moments in what’s been a poor team these last few years but to move forwards and if we are wanting to get back to challenging for trophies, I feel it’s time to say goodbye
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| It's a no from me.We have Leeming Johnson and O'Connor.Use Dwyer's salary to try and sign another prop.
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