Surely we have to start Singleton. He looks so much a better player starting games then coming off the bench. He gets at foothold in the game much quicker going that route.

I would bring Bailey back in, as regardless of his faults, I do think we need a toughness about us to get a result at Warrington.

Not sure I'd start Singleton, but he'd be my first interchange prop when Kylie goes off, rather than the player who comes on after 50 odd minutes. I'd have Kirke ahead of Bailey at the moment. And I'd have Clarkson and Delaney ahead of him to play as a third prop at loose as well. I'd pick him against Leigh

Delaney and Bailey miss out.

Here we go again. Two previous defeats this year both have player pulling out late with illness. Delaney this time. Wonder if change of result.

Shouldn't effect the balance (in the pivots) like the other ones did though. Aiton ruled out at Saints so Burrow does the full 80. Watkins ruled out vs Wigan and Sutcliffe plays centre when he was needed to go to the halves when Sinfield inevitably moved to 9.

This is more straight forward in terms of selection and tactics.......what it mostly is though, is a great opportunity for Chris Clarkson to really put his hand up as being more than just a squad member like what was being discussed on the Clarkson thread.

The Wire bench is interesting though, they've gone with both a hooker and a halfback on the bench (Higham and Myler), this might leave them short in the forwards. Asotasi (who hasn't really shone their so far) and Ben Evans complete the bench.

If we make their starting forwards work hard early on we might reap the rewards in the final 20 minutes.

By which time at this rate we could be 30 behind. Worst half this season by a long way

Massive improvement required and we need to find some forwards this 2nd half otherwise it could get messy

We need to find some halfs, completely anonymous. Not just down to the forwards, the halfs can not make that their excuse.

Very sloppy defence tonight something like 27 missed tackles in first half. For me first two try's came from sloppy kirke defence.

Good tackle back by ablett in the dying minutes of 1st half though

I agree with the defence being sloppy but I don't agree with singling anybody out tonight. The whole team has been poor from 1-13!

We win in big games and emphasize the team effort. We should critisise the team in the same way for an abysmal performance tonight!

Agree the team were/are poor tonight I just spotted the poor kirke defence after someone (cannot remember who) mentioned his good defence and I was particulary watching him.

While we are on it the ref is poor, but we already knew that. Worst ref on the roster for me

I don't normally defend refs (especially Childs) but I think he's had a decent game. Yeah we haven't got any of the 50/50 calls tonight but we can't base tonights loss on that basis.

I think he's been consistently inconsistent. I think he's rubbish. I also think we've been worse than him by a distance

No we have lost because wire were a lot better than us. Still don't think child has had a good game

We all know Childs is not a high calibre referee but I still don't think he had any influence on the result.

Wires defence has been great, our attack looks like something that resembles Sunday league stuff. Wires attack has been good, showed at lot of holes in our defence and plenty of issues that need addressing.

Think me may be playing a few games without ablett as well. Sure he didn't mean to kick the head, but you cannot kick the ball in that situation and connected with the face, might cop a ban for that

A breather for a couple of weeks wouldn't be the worst thing for Ablett IMO. Interesting to see if they do ban him because it will set a precedent-2 games would probably be about right.

Think he has to cop a ban for that dangerous play kicking out when heads are down there

Of course he had an influence on the result. Wires first try a mile forward, and only one pen to Leeds for 75 mins of that game.

Warrington fully deserved the win, they were the better team. But let's not speak rubbish, that Child didn't have an influence, he clearly did.

On the Ablett issue. Would expect a ban, pretty confident he didn't mean any intent (despite his reputation amongst opposition fans probably counting against him) but you've got to be more careful than that in that situation. Very clumsy.

He did, but good sides overcome poor refereeing and tonight we didn't even get close.

He is as poor as I remember and has been for 3 years but that still doesn't excuse our performance

Completely agree don't think he went into it to hurt anyone, thought he was going to kick the ball. But still cannot go in with the boot in that situation

I'm not sure Child pinged us once for holding down, which, when it's Child, must mean we can't have been holding down nearly enough. Wire's consistently fast play-the balls won the match as much as anything else.

I agree, though I'm sure I remember a Leeds try ruled out by the VR a few years ago away at Saints, IIRC Sinfield? was going over the line and had the ball kicked out of his hands by Wellens.

Tbh I think this kind of incident has been coming with refs and VR's not penalising tackling with the legs by players for years.

So you are saying had we got some more decisions our way we would have won?

The answer is no.

That's rugby, you either get the rub of the green or you don't. We've won more than our fair share of matches in the past despite really poor refereeing and at the same time we have been really robbed by the ref in the past. Last nights standard wouldn't fall into that category. By Child's standards I thought he had an average game.

Besides the whole point of me defending the ref was I didn't want people hiding behind the 'if it wasn't for the ref' excuse, when clearly we didn't have enough about us to compete with Wire.