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| Quote ="thebloodbath"The three quarter line up again is the achilles heel.
Out of five shirts to fill only 3 seem to hit the mark (Atkins, Briscoe, Shenton). There solid choices, but are they good enough? They are very slight, not a great deal of experience and aren't going to trouble the kiwis and ozzies greatly. And if those 3 are the elite? Oh dear. I feel this part of the team has the least quality and we will be exposed down the flanks again.'"
Your damn right it is.
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So we've anounced the most likely 17 players to not do a "Ferdinand"?
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no sinfield?
tony smith must want him fresh for his warrington debut
or doesn't he rate him
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| Quote ="Leeds Rhinos Superman"We cant do much worse than we did at WC i suppose.
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So will this be the side to play France?
If so, we appear to be a full back and a winger short.
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No Lee Smith,
Is this because he won't be in league???????????
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slightly surprised at one or two selections, and omissions for that matter. I think that Peter Fox and Ryan Hall can count themselves unlucky, and maybe Tony Clubb too.
Of course that's on the premise that we will be selecting the squad / team with one eye on the future as TS said...
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| Quote ="rpw"Wow...................... what an elite squad that is.
 My god the Auzzies and Kiwis really must envy our pool of talent..
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Pool ?
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You mean some RFL big wig spent a fortune on a new scheme just to tell us Tom Briscoe is the best we have!!
Give me strength!
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Think my 17 would have been when all fully fit:
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Hall Shenton Atkins Raynor (I know he's been out, but englands best winger)
Pryce Brough
Peacock Roby Graham
Wilkin Ellis
Burgess
McGuire
L Burgess
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"I think that Peter Fox and Ryan Hall can count themselves unlucky, and maybe [iTony Clubb [/itoo.'"
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"Out of five shirts to fill only 3 seem to hit the mark (Atkins, Briscoe, Shenton). '" Shenton might hit the mark one day, as might Briscoe. Atkins would be alright were Engalnd playing the Crusaders or Salford a few times. |
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| Quote ="rooster_rhino"Think my 17 would have been when all fully fit:
Smith
Hall Shenton Atkins Raynor (I know he's been out, but englands best winger)
Pryce Brough
Peacock Roby Graham
Wilkin Ellis
Burgess
McGuire
L Burgess
Hock
Scarsbrook'" If that's the best side we can come up with we might as well pack in now (I'm not saying it isn't by the way). However my side would be...
Smith
Raynor
Gleeson
Shenton
Fox
Pryce
Myler
Burgess
Roby
Graham
Peacock
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| Quote ="Leeds_Rhydon"So will this be the side to play France?
If so, we appear to be a full back and a winger short.'"
No - they've said the side will be drawn from inside and outside the elite (sic) squad.
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This just seems daft and half baked.
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| Quote ="G1"This just seems daft and half baked.'"
Perhaps the hierachy identified consitency of approach as a key learning from the WC post-mortem? |
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| Quote ="AdmiralHanson"Pool ?
More like small pond or puddle'"
 indeed. I think we shoudl just abandon the international side...lets just pretend it doesn't exist and SL is the be all and end all... |
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| Quote ="One True Saxon"He hasn't been selected because he has a foot injury.'"
Yet Tom Briscoe is selected, despite not being able to play until August.
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burrow doesnt really deserve to be in there
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yes he does,for me anyhow
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| Quote ="rooster_rhino"Think my 17 would have been when all fully fit:
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Pryce Brough
Peacock Roby Graham
Wilkin Ellis
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brough has represented scotland so would he be able to play for england? hypothetical i know but just enquiring, |
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| Quote ="totalloiner"brough has represented scotland so would he be able to play for england? hypothetical i know but just enquiring,'"
In a word, yes.
He changed his allegience after the World Cup and under the wonderful rules the RLIF have in place, he's available for selection immediately, rather than having to wait 2 years as has happened before the World Cup. |
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| Quote ="Lord_Percy"In a word, yes.
He changed his allegience after the World Cup and under the wonderful rules the RLIF have in place, he's available for selection immediately, rather than having to wait 2 years as has happened before the World Cup.'"
thought so, but does it make a mockery of international r.l? i mean calders signed up for scotland then quickly sacked that off when smith came calling. i think it needs looking at properly. |
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| Quote ="totalloiner"thought so, but does it make a mockery of international r.l? i mean calders signed up for scotland then quickly sacked that off when smith came calling. i think it needs looking at properly.'" I think it needs looking at like this......
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| Quote ="totalloiner"thought so, but does it make a mockery of international r.l? i mean calders signed up for scotland then quickly sacked that off when smith came calling. i think it needs looking at properly.'"
Calders was slightly different, in that he'd never represented Scotland before playing for England. That's not unheard of in many sports; as an example I remember Stuart McCall going so far as to make the bench for England U21's, before going on to represent Scotland.
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