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| Quote ="Superted"Great post - agree with pretty much it all - I'm guessing we're of a similar age and started watching Leeds as a kid in mid-80's.
The only part I'd question is around McD not improving 1 player - think that's a harsh assessment. Without really thinking about it, I'd say Hall, Watkins, Ablett, Delaney (and I'm sure if I really put some effort in, I could think of others) all improved their game over the years with McD at the helm. Whilst natural talent obviously plays a big part, it would be naive to think McD didn't play a part.'"
Those individuals already had the Talent though is my point mate none of them improved beyond that.
For e.g Look how Murray improved individuals to then become vutal cogs in the Team ,Smith did the same i dont see that with Mc.D.
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| Flanagan let a quack test drugs on his squad then when banned ignored the directive not to be involved with the club from day one. He may be a good coach but ethics???
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| Thought we may go for Griffin if still available. Wasn't he down to the last x2 before Sinfield / GH plumped for Furner?
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"Flanagan let a quack test drugs on his squad then when banned ignored the directive not to be involved with the club from day one. He may be a good coach but ethics???'"
Ethics? We signed Ferres who was humping a team mates wife & Lui who likes knocking women about!
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| Walker, Bailey, Minchella, Hardaker........
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| Quote ="Gotcha"I have never once said Handley was the worst, don’t make up such nonsense. I said he is poor, and he is. That unfortunately is a sign of the times in what standard our game currently is that he is valued anything above that.
McLennan was a great coach for us, so much better rugby than your idol.'" You said Handley was the worst winger in SL.
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" Great defensive effort. But my god we have the worst wingers in super league. I will never understand how a player like Handley can earn a living as a professional rugby league winger, terrible."
You then went on to describe him as a player of amateur level. But carry on making stuff up.
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| Quote ="The Magic Rat"You said Handley was the worst winger in SL.
Here is one of your quotes.
" Great defensive effort. But my god we have the worst wingers in super league. I will never understand how a player like Handley can earn a living as a professional rugby league winger, terrible."
You then went on to describe him as a player of amateur level. But carry on making stuff up.'"
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| Quote ="The Magic Rat"You said Handley was the worst winger in SL.
Here is one of your quotes.
" Great defensive effort. But my god we have the worst wingers in super league. I will never understand how a player like Handley can earn a living as a professional rugby league winger, terrible."
You then went on to describe him as a player of amateur level. But carry on making stuff up.'"
Red Handed springs to mind.
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| Quote ="The Magic Rat"You said Handley was the worst winger in SL.
Here is one of your quotes.
" Great defensive effort. But my god we have the worst wingers in super league. I will never understand how a player like Handley can earn a living as a professional rugby league winger, terrible."
You then went on to describe him as a player of amateur level. But carry on making stuff up.'"
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| So it's Agar!
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| Quote ="HucknallLoiner"So it's Agar!'"
Id say so judging by his interview on Sky.
I’m ok with that to be honest, I really think we need a little bit of stability.
He’s brave though because if it starts badly he’ll be gone quite quickly
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| It would make sense just to extend his existing interim role until they can find the right candidate to replace him.
Nothing to stop them keeping it loose and then he returns to the back office when the time is right.
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| Quote ="christopher"Id say so judging by his interview on Sky.
I’m ok with that to be honest, I really think we need a little bit of stability.
He’s brave though because if it starts badly he’ll be gone quite quickly'"
Appears he wants it. He sounds like he's been realistic. He see.s to have the backing of the players and judging by what they said on sky he now needs to win over the fans. I hope he does as it'll mean we are playing well.
I just feel we lack a bit of mental steel playerwise that the likes of Sinfield, Peacock, Maguire, Ellis etc brought us. Now we're safe hopefully we can make those one or two signings that can drag the team along and see if Agar can galvanize them.
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| I wish him well and hope he does well but honestly, wouldnt have been my choice
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| Quote ="tad rhino"I wish him well and hope he does well but honestly, wouldnt have been my choice'"
Get that but apart from maybe Tony Smith which coaches have we been excited about. Maybe the squad is the most important thing and the coach just needs to keep them motivated and hungry and do the research for tactics game by game.
Hes been better than Furner but also had better players. A couple of signings and a full off season will prove if it's a masterstroke, no difference or a disaster.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"wouldnt have been my choice'"
You might change your mind when you hear Gotcha won’t be renewing his season ticket if Agar gets the job
Just kidding Gotcha
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| Easy Option , expect more mediocrity at best
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| Quote ="tad rhino"I wish him well and hope he does well but honestly, wouldnt have been my choice'"
Same.
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| I hope he's given the couple of players we're clearly short of. Might surprise a few if he is.
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| Joke. But expected
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| Wow imagine having a poor CV with so many sackings on it & still getting an elite job.
Im sure him being Sinfields yes man & GH's brother in law never came into the equation.
Good luck selling all that nice shiny new corporate set up.
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| Wouldn't have been my choice either ,but it looks like the club are playing steady as we go . First aim no relegation fight next year after these 3 relegation fights the bar is not very high . Or is it ? This off season and the season proper is very important
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| I don't think any Leeds fan with more than one braincell thinks we will challenge again next year, however it's also fair to say that if we are not at least competing for the top 5 (which I see differently to competing to actually win something) then it will be another year of disinterest and reduced financial outcome. This is the problem. We have so much more at stake now financially, that we must be at least competitive each year to generate enough interest to fund the extra debts of the new stadium.
Poor performances on the pitch = poor income. I hope this isn't the way it goes, but is we are looking at a year of position 7-10 again then it would be a financial problem.
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| I'm not overjoyed by it in fact I've been dead against his appointment but I'm prepared to back him for now and give him a chance. As a minimum I expect Agar to get us pushing for playoffs. Thought he came across well last night. Seems very highly rated by his players
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"I don't think any Leeds fan with more than one braincell thinks we will challenge again next year, however it's also fair to say that if we are not at least competing for the top 5 (which I see differently to competing to actually win something) then it will be another year of disinterest and reduced financial outcome. This is the problem. We have so much more at stake now financially, that we must be at least competitive each year to generate enough interest to fund the extra debts of the new stadium.
Poor performances on the pitch = poor income. I hope this isn't the way it goes, but is we are looking at a year of position 7-10 again then it would be a financial problem.'"
Fully agree Batley Rhino, although not my first choice, not even my choice, I do hope he does well. No doubt the fans will support him, I think the interesting point will be ( if it is him) will be the length of the contract, no doubt we are having to continue to pay DF his wage, no doubt Mr Agar will be a cheaper option and maybe that is all that is needed short term to be able to move one or two players out of the club and introduce some of the young players noting if they are ready for SL. Let’s see what happens. One big concern is income, poor performance will mean reduced income, the marketing team have been worried less about performance and it has taken them to Monday this week to email the corporate side asking for a meeting, while this year the corporate support has been there and the new facilities are full , it will be interesting to see after another poor season if the same will apply next year. No doubt they won’t be increasing the prices for next year.
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