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Lions Crash to Third Tour Loss as the Kiwis Dominate
The Lions Tour of Oceania was in danger of turning into a whitewash after last weekends 12-8 loss to New Zealand. This week the rugby league world turned its eyes to Christchurch for the second contest with the Kiwis, the Lions desperate for the win to regain some pride.
Great Britain lost the services of Ryan Hall and Zak Hardaker with Blake Austin being selected on the wing by coach Bennett. Shaun Johnson was recalled for the Kiwi’s after being dropped for last weeks match and was certain to be looking to prove a point.
Conditions were oppressively hot at the OrangeTheory Stadium as the sides took the field for another bruising encounter.
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Lions Crash to Third Tour Loss as the Kiwis Dominate
The Lions Tour of Oceania was in danger of turning into a whitewash after last weekends 12-8 loss to New Zealand. This week the rugby league world turned its eyes to Christchurch for the second contest with the Kiwis, the Lions desperate for the win to regain some pride.
Great Britain lost the services of Ryan Hall and Zak Hardaker with Blake Austin being selected on the wing by coach Bennett. Shaun Johnson was recalled for the Kiwi’s after being dropped for last weeks match and was certain to be looking to prove a point.
Conditions were oppressively hot at the OrangeTheory Stadium as the sides took the field for another bruising encounter.
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Time for Bennett to pack up n go along with half of that squad n fetch in Daryl Powell it would take me too long to name names but I'm sure mm ost know who they are. Great Britain NB have gone NB backwards at an alarming rate
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With so many injured, I'm surprised that the games were as close.
We had chances, but our pivots couldn't create, and I couldn't believe how little either halfback touched the ball in NZ's 20m.
Most of all though, we lack dynamism in the pack and pace and power mobility in the backs, I'm not sure how we rectify that going forward.
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"With so many injured, I'm surprised that the games were as close.
We had chances, but our pivots couldn't create, and I couldn't believe how little either halfback touched the ball in NZ's 20m.
Most of all though, we lack dynamism in the pack and pace and power mobility in the backs, I'm not sure how we rectify that going forward.'"
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Agree gotcha there would have been no harm in trying widdop is useless I can't see him being around for the 2021 world cup. On another note what about Williams and trueman in the halves next week
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He's got it wrong from the selection onwards. Even as an informative exercise for England it's been a shambles. Does he intend to rotate the 3 remaining halves v PNG (a side who will be nowhere near the WC final? That's not going to tell you a lot, that said with the outside backs you can't fully learn from any halves combination. What a shame for the return of such a prestigious shirt.
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Halves are useless. No kicking game and no organization. I'd also say that some of the basic skills are dreadful. So many passes took momentum out of the runner. The pass Graham dropped start of the second half from Hodgson was thrown with all the straightness of a delivery from Shane Warne. The guy can't throw a simple ball.
Not that any of that mattered, there's no point in trying to get on the front foot and win a collision when you can have 3 guys lie on top of you until they get the signal that the defence is all set. I thought I was watching American Football. GB could have gone into a huddle between each play the ball and called a play.
I guess my main gripe is not that GB were poor, it's that the game itself was completely boring to watch.
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I'm not sure the game was boring. I think GB are boring. NZ looked good when they shifted it out wide. We look so one dimensional.
I think they've bought into the BS admit having the best pack and they can bully teams down the middle. This tour had proceed that's not the case
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End of the day the GB/England playing squad just isn't good enough at the moment.
Too many older players past their peak, and not enough young talent in there - I bit similar to Leeds in some ways.
And like with Leeds we might be a few years away from seeing the new generation come through.
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"End of the day the GB/England playing squad just isn't good enough at the moment.
Too many older players past their peak, and not enough young talent in there - I bit similar to Leeds in some ways.
And like with Leeds we might be a few years away from seeing the new generation come through.'"
But at least we saw Leeds win something at their peak. GBL/England always flatter to deceive. A clear out needed for the World Cup. We might as well stick with English through and through and forget the Aussie imports. Has Hastings proved that he is simply a big fish in a little pond. Wigan supporters must be a little worried with Hastings' weak performances. |
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Well we're going to have to buck our ideas up a bit for next year or the Aussies will embarrass us on home soil.
There are problems right across the side now, and we're several world-class players short of being competitive with the top tier.
We're desperate for outside backs and more halves too.
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| Quote ="ant1"But at least we saw Leeds win something at their peak. GBL/England always flatter to deceive. A clear out needed for the World Cup. We might as well stick with English through and through and forget the Aussie imports. Has Hastings proved that he is simply a big fish in a little pond. Wigan supporters must be a little worried with Hastings' weak performances.'"
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The good news for Wigan and Warrington is that they won’t play Tonga or NZ each week, but they must be a little disappointed with their purchases.
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Widdop looks shot. I think the team spirit looks off. I do not think bringing in the likes of Austin and Hastings has gone down well imo as the squad is better than that. Also time for Bennet to go.
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Today's game was almost like watching jelly set as it was that boring
We've tried to copy the NRL style to beat the Aussies and Kiwis and it's not been a massive success has it?
I want an English coach to get the Englang/GB job and who will play to our strengths rather than the oppositions strengths whereby we come off 2nd best the majority of games
Our forwards can hold their own but sadly our backs are light years away from testing the best sides at present unfortunately
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But we do play to our strengths, England/GB don't have the backs to play an expansive game, but all our first choice backs were injured.
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"But we do play to our strengths, England/GB don't have the backs to play an expansive game, but all our first choice backs were injured.'"
We looked a far better side when Clark came on,we also started to push the ball a bit wider too
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A team with no identity and no blue print.
Bennett will rightly be remembered as one of the great coaches but an Aussie who lives and coached in Oz being the GB coach is a bust. He tries to get us to play the Oz way but more than half the squad dont play that way.
We looked lost and devoid of ideas until that tradition of all losing sides kicks in where they suddenly, but all too belatedly, remember how to play a bit.
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| Quote ="The Chin's Back"We looked a far better side when Clark came on,we also started to push the ball a bit wider too
When we get a couple of centres that can cause these sides trouble when they get the ball in space then we will be far more of a threat than 5 drives and a kick up in the air to their full back IMO'"
That infuriates me so much the aimless kick to the air. That is all i will take away from this tour about Hastings which is quite sad considering the season he had over here. |
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Think it’s a myth that we’ve got a great pack. Bateman and Sam Burgess are truely world class. The rest are pretty ordinary now sadly. I agree will take 2-3 years before we see a competitive GB again.
Need to bring some youngsters through next season. Time for Graham, Hill to retire. Are Walmsley and Thompson good enough to take up the mantle? Didn’t look it from this tour sadly.
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Whilst I agree some get over rated, Bateman is not truely world class, and the same as the others.
Our pack has always been our shining light. Currently though, we seem to lack something.
Our backs though are really poor when comparing to Southern Hemisphere country’s.
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The last three tests we have looked absolutely joyless and robotic, no character, no nouse and no guile.
Handling has been atrocious and at this level players not catching simple passes or knocking on every other set is just putting us under the cosh far too often.
There are not many in this squad currently who look like they can manufacture an opportunity out of nothing.
Lomax has shown flashes, Thompson despite injury has looked dangerous, Bateman has been solid, but some of the regulars have stunk the place out. Some through over-trying, some from just out of form and picked on rep.
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Has Handley seriously been flown out there but not picked?!
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Yep.
Mere lip service.
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