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| Quote ="rollin thunder"That's what Graham Murray did, several got replaced and where out of favor, pure performance was what mattered, Barrie mac could not get a gig for first year under Murray as his performances where not up to scratch. the likes of Tony kemp graham Holroyd where moved on.'"
Powell took a similar approach aswell even clearing out players he was team mates with.
Thats what we need now a clear plan with plenty of the old guard thanked & moved on along with the fringe who arent good enough.
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| We can't swap half a squad in one off season though, so we're likely to have to bear with a number of current players who aren't up to scratch for at least another year. In the salary cap world I reckon 5 additions from outside (with 5 leaving) is about as many as you can manage. Not to mention that if you change too many in one go there won't be much of a team spirit off field or understanding on the field either (see London Broncos every year in SL, or Leeds in the 80s).
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| The way Leeds play i.e. very off the cuff the understanding on the field is not as important as say at Wigan where their attack is more structured.
Defence should be the easiest to teach in terms of absorbing new recruits?
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| Quote ="tad rhino"he is so far off the pace it's embarrassing. he shouldn't tarnish his fantastic reputation by playing on'"
Yet his work rate per minute is far better than Ablett and marginally better than Ferres
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| I trust my eyes. he's slow, very slow. often caught going backwards in the line. I love him but it's time to go
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| Quote ="RHINO-MARK"Powell took a similar approach aswell even clearing out players he was team mates with.
Thats what we need now a clear plan with plenty of the old guard thanked & moved on along with the fringe who arent good enough.'"
That doesn't leave much. Not much at all, especially with Hall and Moon leaving as well. We'll struggle next year whatever, but without a new coach and a couple of decent signings and a solid pre-season where we adapt our playing style to what we've got we will be bottom 4 again.
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| Quote ="DHM"That doesn't leave much. Not much at all, especially with Hall and Moon leaving as well. We'll struggle next year whatever, but without a new coach and a couple of decent signings and a solid pre-season where we adapt our playing style to what we've got we will be bottom 4 again.'"
With a decent coach in charge who can hopefully freshen up our ideas I think we'll look better.
Yes we need new blood, that's a given but also maybe a freshening up of the conditioning corps is in order too.
We look horrible fitness wise, which is odd as we always usually look fresh around this time of year.
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| Quote ="Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino"With a decent coach in charge who can hopefully freshen up our ideas I think we'll look better.
Yes we need new blood, that's a given but also maybe a freshening up of the conditioning corps is in order too.
We look horrible fitness wise, which is odd as we always usually look fresh around this time of year.'"
Just an output of the general malaise around the club under McDermott - all too cliquey
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| I need a good clear out... reckon it will be easier and less painful than the rhinos need right now but like mine, has to be done.
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"I need a good clear out... reckon it will be easier and less painful than the rhinos need right now but like mine, has to be done.'"
I recommend 6 pints of Sam smiths
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| Quote ="Mark Laurie"I recommend 6 pints of Sam smiths'"
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| The fitness issue is very odd. Is it partly a function of too many older players around? If the older players hang on they might be in for a shock if we bring in an Aussie who expects much better fitness.
As for the way we play, I suspect any new coach will instill structure first and foremost. They'll have style they want to see played and then fit it with the players available. Just because we've been a bit off the cuff doesn't mean thats the best moving forward.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Agreed the best prop outside of the top 4'"
Better than Fifita, Idon't think so
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| why oh why are we offering new contracts to Ablett, Delaney, JJB, uncle tom cobbly and all !
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| Quote ="Homer Simpson"why oh why are we offering new contracts to Ablett, Delaney, JJB, uncle tom cobbly and all !'"
Sentimental Sinny, perhaps he hasn't got the balls to get rid of his mates.
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| It's down to cost, it's probably cheaper to give the three oldies a one year deal on a reduced contract than go out and sign up the failures from the likes of Leigh and Widnes, the teams who are relegated usually move from the bottom club to the promoted club, hence they get relegated again. At least you know what you get by giving the three of them a new one year contract. Plus it also gives the young guys coming through an extra year to gain more experience and game time. Some players do need to be moved on, the late signings Crosby and Roberts don't look good long term and should be shipped out quickly. The interesting point is the sale of the season tickets, I have heard nothing yet other than a mid season meeting regarding renewing the corporate tickets, no doubt the pressure will soon start in asking them to be renewed. They are desperate for the corporate tickets to be sold, but having the season from hell I am certain having asked for £2500 plus vat per ticket mid season then this price should now be greatly reduced, if not the corporate suites will be empty. As Sinfield said to me supporters will always support the Rhinos and candidly he is right , so this year I am likely to buy a block of 6 tickets and go for a meal beforehand with my clients at the West End pub and then get a taxi to the ground. After all I am a Yorkshire man and I like getting value for my money, unfortunately this year that value has been zero and the only thing GH has been interested in this year is money and how much can he raise this year through ticket sales. GH if you want to fill the new stadium then spend money on the team with quality players, get rid of the average players and the old players who won't get any better, just give us a team who we can be proud off as opposed to trying to do it on the cheap.
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| Quote ="Brodie123"It's down to cost, it's probably cheaper to give the three oldies a one year deal on a reduced contract than go out and sign up the failures from the likes of Leigh and Widnes, the teams who are relegated usually move from the bottom club to the promoted club, hence they get relegated again. At least you know what you get by giving the three of them a new one year contract. Plus it also gives the young guys coming through an extra year to gain more experience and game time. Some players do need to be moved on, the late signings Crosby and Roberts don't look good long term and should be shipped out quickly. The interesting point is the sale of the season tickets, I have heard nothing yet other than a mid season meeting regarding renewing the corporate tickets, no doubt the pressure will soon start in asking them to be renewed. They are desperate for the corporate tickets to be sold, but having the season from hell I am certain having asked for £2500 plus vat per ticket mid season then this price should now be greatly reduced, if not the corporate suites will be empty. As Sinfield said to me supporters will always support the Rhinos and candidly he is right , so this year I am likely to buy a block of 6 tickets and go for a meal beforehand with my clients at the West End pub and then get a taxi to the ground. After all I am a Yorkshire man and I like getting value for my money, unfortunately this year that value has been zero and the only thing GH has been interested in this year is money and how much can he raise this year through ticket sales. GH if you want to fill the new stadium then spend money on the team with quality players, get rid of the average players and the old players who won't get any better, just give us a team who we can be proud off as opposed to trying to do it on the cheap.'"
Could not agree more
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| Quote ="Brodie123"It's down to cost, it's probably cheaper to give the three oldies a one year deal on a reduced contract than go out and sign up the failures from the likes of Leigh and Widnes, the teams who are relegated usually move from the bottom club to the promoted club, hence they get relegated again. At least you know what you get by giving the three of them a new one year contract. Plus it also gives the young guys coming through an extra year to gain more experience and game time. Some players do need to be moved on, the late signings Crosby and Roberts don't look good long term and should be shipped out quickly. The interesting point is the sale of the season tickets, I have heard nothing yet other than a mid season meeting regarding renewing the corporate tickets, no doubt the pressure will soon start in asking them to be renewed. They are desperate for the corporate tickets to be sold, but having the season from hell I am certain having asked for £2500 plus vat per ticket mid season then this price should now be greatly reduced, if not the corporate suites will be empty. As Sinfield said to me supporters will always support the Rhinos and candidly he is right , so this year I am likely to buy a block of 6 tickets and go for a meal beforehand with my clients at the West End pub and then get a taxi to the ground. After all I am a Yorkshire man and I like getting value for my money, unfortunately this year that value has been zero and the only thing GH has been interested in this year is money and how much can he raise this year through ticket sales. GH if you want to fill the new stadium then spend money on the team with quality players, get rid of the average players and the old players who won't get any better, just give us a team who we can be proud off as opposed to trying to do it on the cheap.'"
Spot on.
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| Has Brodie mentioned he has corporate tickets before?
Ah yeah that's right - in almost every post he makes
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| Quote ="Bang"Has Brodie mentioned he has corporate tickets before?
Ah yeah that's right - in almost every post he makes'"
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| Reading between the lines I think Sinfield is trying to move on some that are long term contracts (possibly including players who have signed again and not been publicised), however this could prove difficult/impossible.
He has made some cryptic references to things not being right and even referred to it not being acceptable to have half the salary cap in the stands. That is an odd comment if players have genuine injuries and are being diligent in their recovery.
There is potential to free up a lot of salary cap now if the 3 vintage back rowers, Walters and mullally have not been signed up again. I suspect GH may have left Sinfield with less room to manoeuvre than we think. He sounded a lot more circumspect about new signings in the post game interview on Friday.
Interesting few weeks ahead, I hope.
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| Quote ="Homer Simpson"why oh why are we offering new contracts to Ablett, Delaney, JJB, uncle tom cobbly and all !'"
Just out of interest where has this been publicised?
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| Quote ="Mark Laurie"Reading between the lines I think Sinfield is trying to move on some that are long term contracts (possibly including players who have signed again and not been publicised), however this could prove difficult/impossible.
He has made some cryptic references to things not being right and even referred to it not being acceptable to have half the salary cap in the stands. That is an odd comment if players have genuine injuries and are being diligent in their recovery.
There is potential to free up a lot of salary cap now if the 3 vintage back rowers, Walters and mullally have not been signed up again. I suspect GH may have left Sinfield with less room to manoeuvre than we think. He sounded a lot more circumspect about new signings in the post game interview on Friday.
Interesting few weeks ahead, I hope.'"
I believe Mullally has signed a 2 year deal which was agreed before Sinfield joined.
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| If that’s true then no room for Crosby. Any other new Props must be better than both of them.
Like I think Brisbanerhino has said before, individually you can make a case for some of our more average players being signed, it’s when they all are and they make up most of the squad that we have trouble.
If we can’t add real quality this close season because it’s been left too late, then we sure had better line up and announce some top drawer ones for 2020
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