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| It would appear that a lot of people are acting like bullies regarding these alleged incidents by jumping on a bandwagon and saying what they think people would like to hear. TV reporters,celebrities and even police officers are viewing these ALLEGED incidents as actual incidents with no proof whatsoever in some cases. If something could have been conclusively proved it should have been done a long,long time ago. If anything did happen the only people that really know are Savile and the ALLEGED victims at this moment in time. Does anyone remember poor old Karen Mathews whose daughter had been "kidnapped" and that landlord down in Bristol that had "murdered" his lodger. I have my own thoughts on Savile, but neither you,I, or that silly bitch Esther Rantzen know exactly how much truth there is to many parts of this investigation. Sadly too many people may have stayed quiet for too long, others are coming forward with "evidence" based on hearsay.
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| Quote ="JonB95""Now then. Now then. Now then. Guys and gals. Welcome to Top of the Pops.
Straight in at thirteen .... me!"'"
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| If there is any amusement to be taken from any of this its from the ill-considered and ill-informed comments from the media and the general public...
"Strip him of his knighthood" is one, he's already been stripped of his knighthood by dying, you can't hold a knighthood after you die according to the Cabinet Office when they had to remind David Cameron of the fact yesterday after he'd suggested that they could consider removing it. Likewise his other medals and assorted government metalwork, they all die along with the recipient. The only statement so far from the Catholic church is that his Papal knighthood was not for his character but for his charity works, so they probably won't be rescinding theirs then.
"Get him out of the town and send him back to Leeds, we don't want him" so said some daft old bint in Scarborough when interviewed by Look North last night - its a dead, rotting body buried in the ground, its not a real person that you can hound out of your poxy little seaside town you silly old mare, he's dead, his body fluids are already seeping into the soil in a graveyard in your town, thats as much as you need to worry yourself over, now go and get some shopping done before your husband gets home and finds you haven't got his tea ready for him because you're too worried about what other secrets are buried in a graveyard in your town that you've probably never even visited.
But the biggest LOL of all goes to this idiot ... [urlhttp://uk.news.yahoo.com/buyer-jimmy-saviles-rolls-royce-gutted-225719136.html[/url, who has to explain to his wife that the car that he paid £160,000 for at auction (over twice what it was expected to fetch and a hell of a lot more than its book value), that he'd be lucky to give it away now unless he can get that dodgy geezer down the pub to supply him with a forged registration document to show the previous owner as having been the pope - or maybe not the pope actually, but anyway, someone not associated with kiddy-fiddling.
If you've clicked the link above you'll see that the idiot with the Rolls is now complaining that the car is probably only worth half what he paid for it and he wants his money back - well yes you pillock, we all knew that anyway, thats why the auctioneer put an £80k valuation on it.
Some people don't deserve the use of a brain.
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| Quote ="JerryChicken"If there is any amusement to be taken from any of this its from the ill-considered and ill-informed comments from the media and the general public...
"Strip him of his knighthood" is one, he's already been stripped of his knighthood by dying, you can't hold a knighthood after you die according to the Cabinet Office when they had to remind David Cameron of the fact yesterday after he'd suggested that they could consider removing it. Likewise his other medals and assorted government metalwork, they all die along with the recipient. The only statement so far from the Catholic church is that his Papal knighthood was not for his character but for his charity works, so they probably won't be rescinding theirs then.
"Get him out of the town and send him back to Leeds, we don't want him" so said some daft old bint in Scarborough when interviewed by Look North last night - its a dead, rotting body buried in the ground, its not a real person that you can hound out of your poxy little seaside town you silly old mare, he's dead, his body fluids are already seeping into the soil in a graveyard in your town, thats as much as you need to worry yourself over, now go and get some shopping done before your husband gets home and finds you haven't got his tea ready for him because you're too worried about what other secrets are buried in a graveyard in your town that you've probably never even visited.
But the biggest LOL of all goes to this idiot ... [urlhttp://uk.news.yahoo.com/buyer-jimmy-saviles-rolls-royce-gutted-225719136.html[/url, who has to explain to his wife that the car that he paid £160,000 for at auction (over twice what it was expected to fetch and a hell of a lot more than its book value), that he'd be lucky to give it away now unless he can get that dodgy geezer down the pub to supply him with a forged registration document to show the previous owner as having been the pope - or maybe not the pope actually, but anyway, someone not associated with kiddy-fiddling.
If you've clicked the link above you'll see that the idiot with the Rolls is now complaining that the car is probably only worth half what he paid for it and he wants his money back - well yes you pillock, we all knew that anyway, thats why the auctioneer put an £80k valuation on it.
Some people don't deserve the use of a brain.'"
I take great exception to this...
I was born is Scarborough and, although it may not be the biggest and most modern seaside town, I take offence at it being called poxy.
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| Quote ="Fat Boy"I take great exception to this...
I was born is Scarborough and, although it may not be the biggest and most modern seaside town, I take offence at it being called poxy.'"
You can have me jailed now for taking offence at something I wrote on t'interweb you know.
You'd have to find a judge who agreed with you that my comment about Scarborough was offensive and good luck with that, but still...
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| I lived in Scarborough for 10 years.
'Poxy' is quite a good description, as is 's***hole'.
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| I went to Filey once
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"I went to Filey once
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The problem with Scarborough (& Filey) is the people (generally). Such a high percentage of one-eyes, chavs and a-holes.
A night out in Scarborough is like something from Roadhouse.
Then there's the borough council who do their very best to go against public opinion and screw the locals over. The demise of the football club and the recent supermarket bid being just a couple of examples.
Nice place to visit (for a day) though.
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| OI YOU LOT....
There's nothing wrong with the Yorkshire coast... Have you ever been to Cleethorpes?
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| Quote ="Fat Boy"OI YOU LOT....
There's nothing wrong with the Yorkshire coast... Have you ever been to Cleethorpes?'"
pssstt
thats Lincolnshire
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"pssstt
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I know - otherwise it would be on the Yorkshire coast and contradict the point I'm trying to make.
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| Quote ="Fat Boy"I know - otherwise it would be on the Yorkshire coast and contradict the point I'm trying to make.'"
could be worse
could be Whitley Bay
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| Quote ="Fat Boy"I take great exception to this...
I was born is Scarborough and, although it may not be the biggest and most modern seaside town, I take offence at it being called poxy.'"
I also have happy memories of Scarborough,and I love the town,but less than a year ago they were really making a big effort to claim Savile as their own Jimmy.great tourist attraction etc.All this scandal is disgusting,but we are seeing so much of now it reminds of a certain statement made about eleven years ago"its a good day to bury bad news"
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"could be worse
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Oi - now you've offended me, nowt wrong with Whitley Bay from what I can remember.
Rat pie was especially nice if you didn't get the slice with all the gristle in it.
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| Anyway, the last resort is surely Withernsea ?
I've never yet been to another seaside resort that tries so hard to pretend that its not a seaside resort.
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| Quote ="JerryChicken"Anyway, the last resort is surely Withernsea ?
I've never yet been to another seaside resort that tries so hard to pretend that its not a seaside resort.'"
Have you never been to Mablethorpe?
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| Quote ="JerryChicken"Oi - now you've offended me, nowt wrong with Whitley Bay from what I can remember.
Rat pie was especially nice if you didn't get the slice with all the gristle in it.'"
The Rex on a Thursday night had its moments too!
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| Quote ="Juan Cornetto"The Rex on a Thursday night had its moments too!'"
Grab a Granny night - with real grannies.
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| Quote ="JerryChicken"Grab a Granny night - with real grannies.
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But at least they were old enough!
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| Quote ="Juan Cornetto"But at least they were old enough!'"
Yes but I was only 22 at the time.
I only went once, with a sales rep who was staying at the hotel I lived in, he was much older than me and thought it was totty heaven, I sat in the corner trying not to make eye contact but feeling like a lamb wandering around a slaughterhouse.
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| Quote ="leeds owl"It would appear that a lot of people are acting like bullies regarding these alleged incidents by jumping on a bandwagon and saying what they think people would like to hear. TV reporters,celebrities and even police officers are viewing these ALLEGED incidents as actual incidents with no proof whatsoever in some cases. If something could have been conclusively proved it should have been done a long,long time ago. If anything did happen the only people that really know are Savile and the ALLEGED victims at this moment in time. Does anyone remember poor old Karen Mathews whose daughter had been "kidnapped" and that landlord down in Bristol that had "murdered" his lodger. I have my own thoughts on Savile, but neither you,I, or that silly bitch Esther Rantzen know exactly how much truth there is to many parts of this investigation. Sadly too many people may have stayed quiet for too long, others are coming forward with "evidence" based on hearsay.'"
Did you watch Newsnight on Thursday? This isn't a couple of accusations and a few "bandwagoners". "The Savile Problem" seems to be something the institutions he "volounteered" at swept under the carpet for years. Maybe they should have told him to jog on, but can you imagine the publicity or the difficulty of trying to explain why you didn't want the guy to turn up (remember, he's a friend of the Royals and thought of as practically a saint)?
Far too many people are speaking up, and in reality what evidence is there ever in sexual abuse cases? It quite often boils down to the word of one person (in the case of the victim this could be a young, troubled individual) against the abuser (in this case a massively famous celebrity venerated for his good works). What we have now are very large numbers of people coming forward to tell how he groped, fondled and attacked them.
The guy is dead now, digging his body up, attacking his family is totally pointless (these things are never done by victims anyway - just yobs looking for an excuse to feel good about being a-holes).
Like I said it's depressing. I'm now waiting to hear that Kevin Sinfield is such a good goalkicker because he practices with kittens and JJB demands panda sausages in his pre-match breakfast.
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| 30 - 40 years on and its all about the money IMO now he has slipped off this mortal coil.
expect to see masses of law suits lodged against the BBC, the NHS, Stoke Manderville, Broadmoor, etc etc etc.
The lawyers must all be rubbing their hands with glee.
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| How on earth would you provge that you'd been groped by Jimmy Savile, 10, 20, 30, 40 years ago ?
Even the eye witness accounts haven't been able to name a victim yet and for most of the ones who are prepared to stand up and tell their story, they have no witnesses.
I'm quite prepared to believe that Jimmy Savile was a sexual predator but if its as simple as putting your hand up and shouting out "Yeah, he did me at the BBC as well" to get some compensation then where's the queue...
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| Quote ="JerryChicken"Oi - now you've offended me, nowt wrong with Whitley Bay from what I can remember.
Rat pie was especially nice if you didn't get the slice with all the gristle in it.'"
I'm sorry
I havent been for over a year now so it could be amazing
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