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| Quote ="Norman Stanley Fletcher"160 odd posts in just over a week and how many have been on this forum. Why don't you do like your username and become a thing of of the past.
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Just what i expected. Always be old fashioned then. I will just wear a coat.
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| Quote ="centralparkforever"Just what i expected. Always be old fashioned then. I will just wear a coat.'" May I suggest you go one further and put a plastic bag over your head.
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| Quote ="centralparkforever"At least Saints and Salford have addressed that problem as from next season by building new stadia.'"
St Helens and Salford are moving to new grounds because their traditional homes were not fit for the 21st century not because away fans might get a bit wet in the unpredictable British summer. [size=85(If Headingley ever gets into such a state then perhaps Leeds will eventually do the same.)[/size
Indeed the 'away' stand at both Knowsley Road and The Willows had a roof over it to drive a wagon and horses through your supposed point.
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| Quote ="MjM"An interesting whisper of a rumour which I heard today could be relevant.
What if, just imagine, Caddick was interested in selling Leeds CF&A Limited. And had, let's just say, discretely circulated that fact to a selection of appropriately wealthy local businesspeople who might be considered suitable potential new owners for the Rhinos?
One probably wouldn't make big capital decisions, however urgent they are by all accounts, if there was a change in ownership in the offing. Especially if those new owners might have a different strategic direction in mind for the club.
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Something like that thought had crossed my mind, since I had heard it said Caddick was not a well man but was at best hearsay. Is there any truth whatsoever in that last point, or is it bollox?
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| Since Mrs GH (KH) is no longer involved at Hull I wonder if the Hs want to buy out Caddick with help from others?
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Something like that thought had crossed my mind, since I had heard it said Caddick was not a well man but was at best hearsay. Is there any truth whatsoever in that last point, or is it bollox?'" He always looks in good order whenever I've seen him, but who knows.... Probably best to assume it's bollox though.
Leeds CF&A is probably a relatively easy thing to divest himself of if he wanted to get some cash in without disrupting his own business (assuming there is a willing buyer anyway). I wonder how much it could be sold for... and would he try to bundle in Leeds RUFC with it - we could do without having another owner who is happy to oblige that ongoing distraction.
I can't imagine Hetherington being able to bring any significant cash to the party as an individual, even if Mrs H has been bought out for a tidy sum at Hull. Even though Leeds are financially stable, GH would probably only really aspire to being a sidekick to a rich backer rather than trying to finance anything himself.
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| Quote ="Norman Stanley Fletcher"May I suggest you go one further and put a plastic bag over your head.'"
Your team must be doing the same after the season they have had.
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| In fact make it a Tescis bag. There's a big Tescis right in the middle of Wigan right where ....... Oh wait!
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| Wow, this just got all in very poor taste.
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| Quote ="MjM"Leeds CF&A is probably a relatively easy thing to divest himself of if he wanted to get some cash in without disrupting his own business (assuming there is a willing buyer anyway). I wonder how much it could be sold for... and would he try to bundle in Leeds RUFC with it - we could do without having another owner who is happy to oblige that ongoing distraction.'"
Obviously this is all speculation, but I don't mind speculating.
Caddick's "Rugby Project" has been going what, 15 years. In that time the Rugby League side has achieved as much as could be dreamed of, and more, and the unprecedented on field success will probably never be matched with a salary cap in place.
However, Caddick's background was the Rugby Union side and his dream was to create a Premiership powerhouse, and this has been an unmitigated disaster and bottomless money pit.
The signs are he has given up on the union dream, they are back in Headingley colours with a cheap coach and playing squad. If he has given up, what better time to sell up, retire the project, and Bank a seven figure cheque for Leeds CF&A to partly offset his losses from propping up the 15 a side mob.
As MjM says, it would explain the postponement of the southstand, let the new owners commit to the borrowing; and it might explain why all the stand delay press releases were in the Caddick name and not Hetherington.
100% total speculation mind.
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| Quote ="Wheels"Wow, this just got all in very poor taste.'"
I just gave an opinion about improving the ground, i didnt expect anything more from you anyway, the words bitter and twisted certainly comes to mind.
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| As a Leeds fan I think Headingley is woefully short of the standards that should be expected from a top sporting club.
Three quarters of the ground is not better than the likes of Whelden Rd, Odsal, The Willows.
When you have one stand that cannot be filled due to safety issues, you have another end that is completely exposed to the elements and your "Prestige" stand has 50 year old wooden seats.
Viewing is poor for 70% of the ground - as the saying goes "Those in glass houses"
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"As a Leeds fan I think Headingley is woefully short of the standards that should be expected from a top sporting club.
Three quarters of the ground is not better than the likes of Whelden Rd, Odsal, The Willows.
When you have one stand that cannot be filled due to safety issues, you have another end that is completely exposed to the elements and your "Prestige" stand has 50 year old wooden seats.
Viewing is poor for 70% of the ground - as the saying goes "Those in glass houses"'"
Absolutely agree. Said it for a number of years. Best thing this club can do is up sticks and develop elsewhere.
You can't keep polishing a turd, eventually it falls away.
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| Quote ="centralparkforever"I just gave an opinion about improving the ground, i didnt expect anything more from you anyway, the words bitter and twisted certainly comes to mind.'"
Why you having a pop at Wheels?
Not only are your arguments of the swiss cheese variety, your banter is pretty naff also.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Why you having a pop at Wheels?
Not only are your arguments of the swiss cheese variety, your banter is pretty naff also.'"
Jeff just likes having random pops at people it adds to the flames he thinks.
I got called bitter and refered to a post I made on the "WIGAN" thread about Agar becoming the next Leeds coach
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| Quote ="centralparkforever"I just gave an opinion about improving the ground, i didnt expect anything more from you anyway, the words bitter and twisted certainly comes to mind.'"
Oh!
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Something like that thought had crossed my mind, since I had heard it said Caddick was not a well man but was at best hearsay. Is there any truth whatsoever in that last point, or is it bollox?'"
He's fit and well.
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| Quote ="MjM"An interesting whisper of a rumour which I heard today could be relevant.
What if, just imagine, Caddick was interested in selling Leeds CF&A Limited. And had, let's just say, discretely circulated that fact to a selection of appropriately wealthy local businesspeople who might be considered suitable potential new owners for the Rhinos?
One probably wouldn't make big capital decisions, however urgent they are by all accounts, if there was a change in ownership in the offing. Especially if those new owners might have a different strategic direction in mind for the club.
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Leeds CF&A is probably a relatively easy thing to divest himself of if he wanted to get some cash in without disrupting his own business (assuming there is a willing buyer anyway). I wonder how much it could be sold for... and would he try to bundle in Leeds RUFC with it - we could do without having another owner who is happy to oblige that ongoing distraction.
I can't imagine Hetherington being able to bring any significant cash to the party as an individual, even if Mrs H has been bought out for a tidy sum at Hull. Even though Leeds are financially stable, GH would probably only really aspire to being a sidekick to a rich backer rather than trying to finance anything himself.'"
What if, as part of this change of ownership, the minority owner and Chief Executive also sold up and decided to take control of a rival club in West Yorkshire?
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| Quote ="Maverick Rhino"What if, as part of this change of ownership, the minority owner and Chief Executive also sold up and decided to take control of a rival club in West Yorkshire?
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Been covered already
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| So have the club got a safety certificate for next year?Was the meeting with LCC about"sorry we cant let you have a loan just right now,but you can have a certificate and we will pay for any safety repairs"
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"So have the club got a safety certificate for next year?Was the meeting with LCC about"sorry we cant let you have a loan just right now,but you can have a certificate and we will pay for any safety repairs"'"
Why should the Council pay for any repairs?
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| Quote ="Old Feller"Why should the Council pay for any repairs?'"
Well we were led to believe by GH that if the SS is not rebuilt "now"it will have to close,because we will not get another safety certificate.So the "really good constuctive meetings"with LCC must have amounted to some kind of consession because the SS will be open for next season.
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| According to Radio Humberside - how you interpret the reliability of this source is up to you - Hull FC have reached a settlement with the Inland Revenue over the image rights issue. They have agreed to pay a not insubstantial sum of around £1m. It's quite possible that we may end up paying a similar sum, if not more. If so, it's hardly surprising that work on the South Stand has been deferred.
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| Quote ="Clearwing"According to Radio Humberside - how you interpret the reliability of this source is up to you - Hull FC have reached a settlement with the Inland Revenue over the image rights issue. They have agreed to pay a not insubstantial sum of around £1m. It's quite possible that we may end up paying a similar sum, if not more. If so, it's hardly surprising that work on the South Stand has been deferred.'"
nope. hull have reached an agreement over EBT's (the so called singapore sling) which arent the same thing as image rights.
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"Well we were led to believe by GH that if the SS is not rebuilt "now"it will have to close,because we will not get another safety certificate.So the "really good constuctive meetings"with LCC must have amounted to some kind of consession because the SS will be open for next season.'"
Building control aren't usually in the business of offering concessions & even if they have, that doesn't amount to an offer from the council to fund any necessary repairs.
As I posted elsewhere, when I was there for the cricket at the start of September, test holes had been drilled around the perimeter of the South Stand. Possibly they showed that it is safe for another period of time.
Inflatable Armadillo (who's been absent from here for a while) could advise better than me.
It smacks of brinkmanship from GH if you ask me.
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