Quote ="darwoo11"Two totally different hookers and both have positives. I just think that a lot of people on here often underestimate the work that Diskin does. He is far more effective IMO than a lot give him credit for.'"

Sorry Darwoo, but that appears to me to be just a 'soundbite' without any foundation. How do you define [i"the work that Diskin does"[/i. How do you exactly quantify that ??

If I went to my MD and said the same of one of our employees ...he would quite rightfully ask give me evidence and specifics.

Childish insults seem to be all that the pro disco advocates have to offer.




I think we really need to have some form of financial penalty when any one comes out with the "4 times Grand Final winning rings" nonsense, with perhaps a donation via the site to a local charity.


And perhaps DHM could offer up a convincing explanation of how past performances trump current form?

And still the clowns debate Diskin in the same ballpark as Buderus (an Australian International and SOO first name on the teamsheet player!!), funniest thing I have ever seen in all my time reading views on RL.

Open your eyes for a bloody change and make a reasonably informed decision, Diskin was bloody shocking if Friday and this has reached reasonable consistency, his pace and distribution have almost reached fossil status.

He shouldn't be anywhere near the 17 and those saying Buderus cant do 80 mins clearly need to take a look over his career, he has always been a 80mins Number 9.

3/10 titch.

The three being for effort.

Ok, when Bailey, Ali, Burrow, Burgess are fit does Diskin get near the 17?

A slow 9 who can do a bit in the 2nd row? Seriously, come on Rob, really?

Buderus speeds us up when he's on, Diskin slows us down, massively at times and we lose the momentum when he enters the field. Against Wakey we went 12-0 down but then got on the front foot and got it back to 12-12. Enter Diskin, threw a couple of passes and then had a scoot from DH where he knocked on, Wakey got the ball back and Disko's first tackle he gave a penalty away, harsh call as King had a hold of Disko's arm but still a penalty was conceded and Wakey went 14-12 up.
The point is momentum changes when he comes on and it affects us week in week out.
Buderus speeds us up which makes us more threatening in attack, he's a better defender and i'd say he's one of if not the best defender we've got. When we need momentum he puts Buderus back on, not Diskin.
Maybe the reason Bluey plays Diskin every week is because he doesn't want to upset team spirit etc, because he hasn't been earning his place recently. If that is the case then just limit his minutes or play him at LF so Buderus can play 65-70 minutes and dont renew his contract.

Lets just get it sorted one way or another. The least disruption it causes the better.

Sorry. I can't even give you any marks for effort there Titch.

Thick know nowt fekkwitts like the Magic Wand like shiny things. Big shiny expensive Aussie imports.

Lots of our fekkwitt fans are the same.

Matters nowt that they've won fekk all with us. They still like them more than winners.

Its around this time that they start listing big shiny aussie imports that should definitely, absolutely, take-my-word-for-it-I'm-right, be in the CEO shopping list for next season isn't it ?

By the time August comes around they're almost hysterical with rage that no-one took their advice though.

Come November they'll be burning season tickets again.

Nice avoidance of question, I take it you know the answer but cant face typing it.

Just so we get a balanced debate like we have seen for the last few days, rather than the childish outbursts of certain posters.

As anybody at all on this thread said anything about making a new signing?

Wrong, I like to see players who have mastered their art, I like to see players who make the admission money seem that little bit more value for money.

I think what you are failing to see is the actual point that people are trying to make, with Diskin (who has been a great servant to Leeds), it is becoming increasingly noticeable that his game is too slow for the modern game, at times it is almost painful to watch - professional sport isn't about sentimentality, with Diskin this seems to be the foundation for your blindness to the blatantly obvious.

Oh dear.

So Buderus is too good for the team and Diskin is not good enough for the team, why don't we sack both.

???

Who said anything about turning any one down? I don't even know what question you are trying to fumble your way through here.

I would welcome Billy Slater with open arms I just wouldn't say silly things like he's too good for the team.

You think that's an insult? You're weak.

G1 and his merry brigade of bog snorcklers wouldn't want Slater, it would upset Webb you see who has some GF winning rings.............

G1 and his merry brigade of bog snorkelers wouldn't want Slater, it would upset Webb you see who has some GF winning rings.............

Ah Heron, hope you've managed to get all that egg scrapped off your face. Moustaches can be so messy at times eh?

Perhaps you'd care to answer the question posed to you last week as to why past performances should trump current form?

Welcome back G1. I hope the colonic irrigation was all that you hoped for!

Sadly, the simian grunts from Heron and the Gingher last week were a far cry from your own erudite and structured debate on this topic.

It will be as though Shakespeare himself is posting!

You mean why form and consistancy of form over more than a few games should be considered as opposed to (very debatable) player assessments made by you and a couple of others? I don't have to, there's no argument to make. I know it, several others on here know it and the Leeds coaching staff and management know it.

Look, I know you and a few others, have had to endure being made to look slightly foolish at times last year, when Buderus turned out to be less than a fabulous signing. Patchy form, continuous injuries and even worse, Matt Diskin once again showing with him as the only hooker in the side we have better results (TVOC has put those numbers up before)n and we end up topping the table and winning a GF - again (that's last year in case you forgot, not 5 years ago or 6 years ago - 7 months ago). So I guess it was understandable that as soon as Buderus showed anything even half resembling the form Diskin regularly shows that you would take your chance to craw. But my initial assessmant stands. You are a bunch of spoiled kids.

For the record, I thought signing Buderus was not a bad idea initially. He was a quality player who became available to cover a position where we had nothing to back up Diskin should he suffer a long term injury. As it turned out he's been an average signing. Barely playing last year and hardly impressing when he did. We seem to be getting better value from him this year - which is good for the team - but I am baffled by why this immediately triggers a wave of player bashing the likes of which I haven't seen since we had Richie Mathers at the club. I can only assume that the desire to get "even" with certain other posters who have in the past made you look like a numpty.

And as for the egg, there isn't any. And I have a beard at the moment, not just a tash.

It was a pitiful attempt Titchy and got the response it deserved, don't be a mardy bum now.

Anyone who has seen team sheets from the last season and a half knows the answer.