I don't give a monkeys about his CV, I care about what he can do for us next season and I'll judge him on that.

I can only assume you're right fgb. We've appointed a coach who was no longer even trying to be a coach because no one would hire him based on his record.

I think we've gone that way because of two things.

First, over reading how 'well' he's done this year.

Second we're gun shy because of Furner.

None of these stand any real scrutiny. His record this season is nothing at all to jump up about. 5th in a table where half the teams suck completely, with three new signings? Sorry for not praising the messiah. I reckon quite a few coaches would have done at least as well.

As for Furner? Yes he was terrible but that says more about the people who hired him than anything else. If you sign a supposed star and they don't work out do you then sign numpties because of it? No, you try to do better with the next one. Ditto coach.

I hope Agar proves me wrong, but his appointment is gutless IMO.

Overall bad news, don't expect him to be here at the end of next season because he wont last the season, there must be method in their madness. Will it hit them financially?? yes it will. Three poor years out of the last four seasons and no one can convince me that we have turned the corner.
All I can think of saying is that whichever way we look at it maybe after the Furner issue no Australian wants the role, that we are limited with a low choice of top class English coaches and with having to pay off Furner maybe Agar is all we can afford, he is the cheap option. Lets hope we end up with a solid number 2.

All we need is to re sign Ferries and the jobs done.

I get all the comparisons to the early 2000s but I'd say a better comparison is 97 when GH came in. We had a team full of rubbish and signing Harris and then Murray as coach turned it around.

I will also judge him on next season, but I'll judge those who appoint him based on his qualifications for being Leeds coach in the first place. They (GH and KS) have together got a lot wrong in the last few years in terms of judgement, I sincerely hope this isn't another case of that in a year's time.

At best I see it that we will tread water for a year, waiting for some more players to go off contract, and hoping that we can integrate some more promising kids, but the difficulty is that integrating kids into a poorly playing team (like we have had this year) is a very hard task.

I say we showed some positive signs of progress under Agar this season. People have their agendas and beliefs and that's fine, time will tell who's right and wrong - but in absolute performance terms our defence is improved and our attitude is improved IMO. Those are the kinds of attributes you can build on.

If Agar doesn't step the team up next year, he won't last the course and someone else will be brought in. If he does, great.

We are in a period of major squad rebuilding, it's only really 12 months since McDermott left.

We'll be paying the price for p-poor decision making in recruitment over the past several years (and lack of junior development) for another year or two yet.

Agree with all the above.

Totally agree.

I haven't had one of those for a while. It's me pancreas.

You cant keep doing the same things & expect different results i.e Hull =failed=sacked Wakey= failed=sacked Wire=Failed=Sacked you might not give s monkeys about his CV but it proves NO MATTER where he is or who employs him he FAILS.
Of course if you are happy to join the happy clappers & accept any polished turd good for you just remember the warning signs were all there when he gets the boot by june.

Just as a point of order if you're going to shout, Agar wasn't sacked at Hull, Wakefield or Warrington.

I'm happy to give him a chance and see how it goes next season, I try not to look at things so negatively all the time, in the end it gets you nowhere. If he is gone by June, well done I'm sure you'll take a lot of pleasure in being proved correct.

Mutual consent =pr BS for sacked.
Why would i take pleasure in seeing us f#&k about for another 6 months with a chancer only to see him sacked so we,'re back to square one afyer Furner left?
F'all to do with taking pleasure or being proved right its watmsting time on a nobody who isnt worthy of that job.
We have the best batch of potential jnrs in years they need Coaching & nurtering into 1st Team regulars by a quality Coach who can do that whikst he gels the 1st team squad & gets the best out of them.
Agar cant & never has done that whats so hard to grasp?
Whether you like his CV or not it shows failure everywhere he's been & not one sign that he's good enough or ready for one of the biggest jobs in SL.

He didn’t leave by Mutual consent either, look I understand you and many others don’t think he’s the right man for the job but no need to rewrite history to try prove a point.

You’re writing him off, which again is up to you I’m just saying lets see how it goes, after all you’ve got no choice.

Don't forget there are a team of coaches behind the scenes, not just the head coach. Day to day Rob Burrow will have the most influence on the juniors.

Agar was about right in the presser today. He thinks there's lots of improvement in the current squad - well we'll see next year. If we're going to fare much better we are going to need another signing or two.

I would be surprised if we didn't address 7 for 2020, I really don't think Agar is a fan of Myler.

Whether we play Gale or McLelland there, we'll get a better kicking game out of the change.

I strongly suspect that we will be treading water with a few contracted players next year that we can't shift. We should do okay next year but whoever is coach, our young players will make mistakes or sometimes get physically dominated.

Newman has let a few in this year but he'll learn and develop yet. Walker and Oledzki need to work on their game too. I'm sure all three will be improved for next year.

GH and TS have seen him working with squad day in day out and they think different.If he was has crap as you make out why would they even consider him.I'll take their opinon on him over you and anyone else on this board.

First of all Joe Vickery he was garbage GH happily gave him a deal he did it with Beu Falloon etc etc they arent perfect.
Good for you this is the same KS who did the big speech about SC been sat in the stands ,squad quality etc then made Ferres captain signed Jordan Thompson kept Jjb & a 2yr out of date Ablett on a 2 year deal.
Signed Crosby on a 3yr deal knowing he was injured brought in Albert Luke Briscoe & sacked Furner without a replacement so winged it with Agar.
Now whatever they may or may not seen we've all seen what happens on matchday we all know whats happened elsewhere on matchdays nothing whatsoever points him to him been good enough.
Heres a big clue he's done naff all anywhere before he's got it because the plsyers like him he's a yes man for Sinfield & GH's brother in law.

GH wouldn’t have seen no such thing. He is not involved with the players, and certainly doesn’t attend training. It was also GH who continued to back the previous useless lump we had despite the rest of his team telling him to get rid. Luckily we managed to scrape away from relegation as a result, only to repeat it again this year through his wrong choices.

You are very very generous to take Hetheringtons opinion over anyone these days.

For the live of god Agar out!

if he's so crap then why would they put the club at risk and also how come if Agars got the job only because he's GH brother-in-law then how come it's taken so long for him to get employed by Leeds,you would have thought he would have in years ago.But hey you must know better than the people who are seeing the coaching operation day in day out.

They are obviously still working on the back room staff.

Wonder if it will be Carr, but they don’t want to announce it while Fev go through the play offs?

Just listen to the supporters of the teams where he has been head coach. There hasn’t been one supporter who has spoke highly of him. I think that says everything of the man as a first team coach.
He came to the club when we were two points off the bottom of the league, we have finished two points off the bottom of the league, I then hear there has been an improvement. Will someone on here point out to me where the improvement has been, because facts are facts, you can only measure the improvement by the points we have won, yet we are still only two points off the bottom. I have a lot of patience, a lot of optimism, but now I’ve nothing left. It’s is a dreadful decision. The man has achieved nothing in his career as a first team coach, he is not good enough as a coach for this role.

That's possibly the worst advice I've ever seen.

Why Ghost, where ever he has coached not one of the fans have a decent word to say about him. He has won nowt in the game, his teams have never competed and usually he leaves by mutual consent. If he is that good why wasn’t he first team coach before he came to Leeds. He is not even good enough for the Championship

My last say on this matter, I know it’s a hot topic and a lot is said with tongue in cheek etc.
But what is true, like Agar or not, it is hard to justify him becoming head coach of Leeds, I cannot find the words to write down how and why he has got this job.

As someone who watched the Agar years at Hull I'm astonished he's got another head coaching gig.
He seems to be highly regarded within the game as his appointments at Wire and Leeds testify, but at Hull it wasn't just the results that were poor, the standard of rugby was awful.
Five drives up the middle and a kick.
Pretty much the same garbage served up under Radford as a matter of fact. Hopefully Agar will poach him as his assistant.