Hard to disagree with anything Mr Eve puts above.

I've pointed out numerous times throughout this whole episode, the Sharks have been quite clear all along - they would not be paying a fee, but were interested if Segeyaro could get a release. They've not once moved from that stance, and their quotes even now back this up, and Leeds quotes talk about Segeyaro, not the Sharks.

The only chance Leeds had for money out of the Sharks was if Brailey didn't handle his NRL games well and they might have got desperate - but with how Brailey has started the season, they were never going to fork out a fee - don't forget that any fee counts on the cap, and incurs a 50% surcharge in addition to the NRL.

I'm positive this is a deal between Segeyaro and Leeds, I'm also positive it'll be minimal - Leeds can't afford a long drawn out court case or the negative PR that goes with it. As it is, GH has strung it out long enough to look like he's played hard ball and he's got an 'undisclosed financial settlement' so he can claim the moral victory (without the true value getting out).

Lyall Gorman 1 - 0 Gary Hetherington

Like I said we have no reason to give up Segeyaro's registration unless we were paid a decent amount, who cares who paid it?

Exactly this. Very well said.



Who cares who paid? See Sir Kev's post above.When did Leeds last announce how much they'd paid for or sold a player for?

Your continued obsession with all things Gary Hetherington is "duly noted" and really, really quite sad.
I'm wondering if there's a psychological term for that?

Hetheringtonitis?
Bitterness?
Trolling?

No one cares, but it won't stop RLFans' very own Alex Jones from going off on one.

You make a fair point but for me if Leeds are going to stand tough then they need to demonstrate that the stance has yielded the desired outcome.

Not a paltry few grand which is what a lot on here - me included - think

When you say Leeds never release transfer fees that is simply not the case we all know how much they paid Sheffield for the half back - why because the club told everyone that was less than 6 months ago - they didn't have an issue telling everyone how much they paid for Iestyn either

Quote ="Sal Paradise" they didn't have an issue telling everyone how much they paid for Iestyn either'" are you sure sal? Quote Gary Hetherington "Naturally, we are pleased with the outcome and the fact that the matter is now settled and laid to rest. "Four years is a long time and we're delighted the matter has been concluded." Hetherington, who refused to reveal the amount of compensation paid by Bradford, added: "Obviously, it's a figure we are satisfied with."'" Read more at: www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/s ... -1-2180526 i'm not exactly sure what the club received by way of compensation but i do believe that they were recompensed sufficiently despite gh not publicly stating the figure received gary hetheringtons statement regarding chicko's release sounds not too dis similar to his statement regarding harris imo Quote Gary Hetherington said, “We have agreed to terms with James Segeyaro to enable him to sign with the Cronulla Sharks. “The terms of the settlement are strictly confidential but we can report that the club is satisfied with the financial settlement.'" www.therhinos.co.uk/news/leeds-r ... M5BdvmLS70

Quote ="Sal Paradise" they didn't have an issue telling everyone how much they paid for Iestyn either'" are you sure sal? Quote Gary Hetherington "Naturally, we are pleased with the outcome and the fact that the matter is now settled and laid to rest. "Four years is a long time and we're delighted the matter has been concluded." Hetherington, who refused to reveal the amount of compensation paid by Bradford, added: "Obviously, it's a figure we are satisfied with."'" Read more at: www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/s ... -1-2180526 i'm not exactly sure what the club received by way of compensation but i do believe that they were recompensed sufficiently despite gh not publicly stating the figure received gary hetheringtons statement regarding chicko's release sounds not too dis similar to his statement regarding harris imo Quote Gary Hetherington said, “We have agreed to terms with James Segeyaro to enable him to sign with the Cronulla Sharks. “The terms of the settlement are strictly confidential but we can report that the club is satisfied with the financial settlement.'" www.therhinos.co.uk/news/leeds-r ... M5BdvmLS70

Quote ="Jonesy's a Legend"are you sure sal? Read more at: www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/s ... -1-2180526 i'm not exactly sure what the club received by way of compensation but i do believe that they were recompensed sufficiently despite gh not publicly stating the figure received gary hetheringtons statement regarding chicko's release sounds not too dis similar to his statement regarding harris imo www.therhinos.co.uk/news/leeds-r ... M5BdvmLS70'" Yes I am they compared what they paid Warrington for him to what Leeds paid for Lewis Jones with inflation

Quote ="Jonesy's a Legend"are you sure sal? Read more at: www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/s ... -1-2180526 i'm not exactly sure what the club received by way of compensation but i do believe that they were recompensed sufficiently despite gh not publicly stating the figure received gary hetheringtons statement regarding chicko's release sounds not too dis similar to his statement regarding harris imo www.therhinos.co.uk/news/leeds-r ... M5BdvmLS70'" Yes I am they compared what they paid Warrington for him to what Leeds paid for Lewis Jones with inflation

The rumours on the Sharks forum is that Leeds have received roughly half of the original asking price.

Which part of Him's [i"The main point anyway was about ensuring NRL clubs have to pay some kind of fee and have to directly negotiate with SL clubs[/i and my response to his post do you have a problem with exactly?

Good luck to segeyaro he's a cracking player and provided us with a boost last season. Hindsight is 20-20 but he shouldn't have extended the deal.

Anyway Leeds have a new hooker and he looks pretty good so everyone is a winner.

I refer you back to Kevin Sinfieldl's post, Sal. You must've missed it when I quoted it in my post earlier.

[iGH has made the point that players will not be able to just walk out on contracts. Segeyaro has had no pre season, missed the start of the NRL season, and doesn't even have a contract with another club yet, plus he will have had no income for the last 3/4 months.

Obviously we have got nowhere near the £250,000 asking price, which is why it's been kept confidential. It sounds like it could be Segeyaro buying himself, rather than Cronulla. The true figure is probably in the region of £50,000.
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Not sure what else you'd like Leeds to do, weren't you one of those on here saying Leeds should just release him and move on? I personally think this has been handled brilliantly.



I didn't say that but the fact you can only remember one player (20 years!!) before Aston kind of reinforces my point, doesn't it?

Ah, one person then and I bet even he doesn't [ireally[/i care whether it's the player or the club who've paid.

But anyway, please make sure you mention Him when ranting about this for the next decade, like you inevitably will, won't you. TIA

That can't be true.
Someone on the Leeds forum said it was only £50k.

According to your mate, Segeyaro has been training with Cronulla all along and getting paid so that he won't be living off [iBBBBs[/i.

I agree that the fee is likely to be around 50K. Could be less, but very doubtful it would be more than that. And the fee will be coming from Segeyaro.

Way too much negative PR has been generated by this episode as alluded to earlier by Superted which does the club no favours in terms of any future recruitment drive from overseas.

It woz £50,000.

No, it was half wot GH asked for - £125,000!

Do we have any more unsubstantiated bids?

I'm not sure that it is "negative PR" I think we have allowed players to move on in the past when it wasn't working for them. But that wasn't what happened in this case, IMO. He used us as a banker, in case he couldn't get himself a gig in the NRL. The club didn't roll over on it and if that action disuades other from joining us who ideally would rather not be with the club, how is that a bad outcome?

Did GH's invitation to other clubs to put in offers and his demands for a £250,000 [i'Transfer Fee'[/i during the past three months tell you to say that?

I think the lesson for the club is to not sign players who clearly lacked the appetite and enthusiasm to join them in the first place. I don't agree that Leeds were intentionally used by Segeyaro as a banker - just in case.

Segeyaro's reluctance to join Leeds in the first place was there for all to see. He couldn't have dragged his feet more if he'd tried. He's a young man with personal issues who Leeds should have stayed well clear of, but... due to poor planning over an extended period of time and the consequent lack of options, Leeds ended up in a situation last season where they were Desperate with a capital D.

Steady on old chap, your disciple was one of the posters bandying the £50k transfer/ payment and the "half of the original asking price" came from the Sharks forums.

I have no disciples but if I did, [url=http://retro.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?p=18537202#p18537202[uthese two[/u[/url would definitely not qualify

Anyone disappointed that there's been no announcement of any ground breaking partnership between the Leeds Rhinos and Cronulla Sharks?

Oh but you do!

Why should there be a ground breaking partnership?

Business done.......leave it at that and get on with the forthcoming matches.

Completely irrelevant.

How about this one?

It's not. It's a great outcome for all of SL.

The only negativity i've seen around this story has been a few posts by some attention seeking old men on an internet forum. Elsewhere, the reaction to how Leeds & Evil Gary have handled this have been pretty positive and hopefully sent a message out to one or two players down under who might be thinking of coming to play in SL soon.