Nine's games are hard mate

Childs!!!!..Wasn*t Justin Morgan fined earlier in the season because he had the audacity to speak his mind about this idiot?...Bring back Ronnie Laughton...

Ganson, Kirkpatrick, Smith, Cummings....none of them would have allowed your boys to carry on with their shocking antics: look at your players' mistakes before thinking a different ref would have made any difference. And get a new coach before you drop into obscurity.

Edited for accuracy.

It was Richard Agar actually after our home match v Cas. £6000. A record fine I believe.

Didn't Noble go nuts at him on the touchline against Hull FC last year?

Many have mentioned his "performances" but like i've posted many times whilst Stuart Cummings remains in a job this is the kind of standard we can expect.

I agree 100%

27-Mar-11 ….. Won 6 - 28 ….. Wakefield V Leeds ….. Pens For 12 ….. Pens Agst 11
25-Apr-11 ….. Won 34 - 16 ….. Leeds v Crusaders ….. Pens For 11 ….. Pens Agst 6
27-May-11 ….. Lost 6 - 42 ….. Leeds V Warrington ….. Pens For 6 ….. Pens Agst 9
10-Jul-11 ….. Lost 38 - 18 ….. Les Catalans V Leeds ….. Pens For 4 ….. Pens Agst 12

On each of the four occasions Leeds have had James Child officiate the team winning the penalty count went on to win the game.

Coincidence or a basic lesson in the bleeding obvious?

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One rule I'm finding frustrating at the minute is when opposition players find Leeds defenders not stood square it appears to result in the guarantee of a soft penalty, when Leeds go looking for the same infringement it's invarably play on. Or so it seems.

Henderson won a couple of those today but when Buderus had a legitimate call for one he got waved away. Peacock knocked on in that set and Catalan scored.

Typifies where Leeds are at at the moment.

Child is and has been rubbish all season. With no penalty to him. There seems to be no come back on refs for crap games. However we lost and would have regardless of the ref

Spot on.
Plus it seemed to my unbiased eyes (

) that on a number of occasions the Dragons moved well off the mark to draw the penalty. Something Saints have got away with for years.
On one occasion (that didn't draw an immediate penalty) the player crawled forward about 3 metres nearer to our line before playing the ball.
Finally, in the second half Danny Mags was knocked over by one of their players retreating behind our line on one of the few times we got a quick PTB but again no penalty to us & arguably it should have been a sinbinning.
We were crap but IMV got the rough end of the refereeing stick.

At the risk of sounding bitter, the Catalans players were walking off the mark a lot this afternoon. It is a massive advantage as it nudges the markers out of line. Wigan (and dare I say it, Mr S Tomkins) utilise this tactic quite a lot, which is something referees should be clamping down on.

Lol Hull fan complaining about a play the ball after the hooter had gone?! Thats comical.

"You play to the whistle" as loads of Hull fans screamed on our board after you scored a try after the hooter had gone and you'd been tackled and played the ball after the hooter.

In 50 years of watching sport of all kinds Childs is the worst ref i've ever seen,he should be sacked asap.

The policing of square markers is a real sense of frustration. I'd imagine every single play a marker could be penalised for not being square. Often it's as a result of the attacker moving off the mark.

However, in games refs seem to have a ten min splurge on the offence which is often forgotten for the remainder.

Being completely biased, in the recent defeat to Bulls Ganson had a ten minute splurge on Leeds defenders not being square. the momentum swing that followed helped change the game. Each of his decisions, in isolation, were correct. The frustration is that he didn't police the whole game the same way and he appeared to only police one set of defenders.

Yes. The Badford game was on my mind but I dared not include it for the obvious reason.

Are you feeling OK?

Yes. I know the accusation of sour grapes can be levelled etc but I could care less. The referees can subtly have a real difference on the outcome of a game even when they make technically correct decisions. I felt the Bulls game was one. Not that I cared because, frankly, we didn't deserve to win anyway.


It's Monday morning. I am tired. Had a few beers yesterday. Stools are a little loose. Otherwise fine thanks.

You?

we were poor. BLaming refs is what all the wakey and cas fans I know do. You make your own luck. We were poor.

ps. we were poor

We were poor.

Who is blaming refs?

Can't we discuss refs performances on here?

Under general circumstances I would agree with you. But here I think you are way out.

The try for Blanch would not have been given by ANY other ref. Even someone as stupid as Child should have gone to the video. Had he done that the try would have been chalked off.

At the point in the game where Leeds had momentum we would have been within 2 points (assuming the other points Catalans scored would have still happend), rather than 8 points behind. That score had a massive bearing in how that game was going, and the style of play required.

We would be perfectly reasonable to question Child's performance.

Correct he never missed a tackle either

if you spend a game in your own half then all the decisions that don't go your way are "big". The no try was a joke yes. It was evened up though iirc. Sadly the tackle count, fumbles and time on D wasn't. If that try was the reason you think we lost the game then idk what to say other than we were poor, we got what was coming scrum try or no scrum try.

It's a numbers game and thats something the wakey/cas fans never recognised when citing ref bias toward "the big teams". In the days when we knew how to attack (read we had 1 recognised and top permoring centre) opposition fans used to say we got away with alot but like I say you make your own luck. It happens in all sports.

Up until now I had considered Alibert the worst ref in SL ....pity Child a close second. He's now made it to the top of that league. Appalling decisions throughout . .. We were still crap though: totally devoid of any idea in organised attack other than kick on the fourth.

And can somebody please tell me the point of touch judges / linesmen / linespersons / whatever ?

The amount of obvious forward passes for and against this season missed by these comatosed dummies is enough to make me gasp almost as much as I do when reacting to the stupidity of Cameron / Sarkozy grandstanding over Libya.

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