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| Correct Marty and Biff , just a guessing game from the on field official
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| Is there any reason why I can’t award a try...
Union have got it spot on.
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| That's even worse if the vr interprets it as meaning to look at everything in slowmo. To me its the intent - everyone should assume a try unless clear evidence to the contrary. Otherwise you get nitpicking on things that no ref would spot in real time.
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| That’s exactly how I read the union interpretation. I think it’s a try, I want to award one, so you need to tell me why I can’t.
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| I hate it when a good move for a try is scrubbed because of some microscopic 'loss of control' that can only be seen when slowing right down.
I've no issue with the vr being able to slow down for something like obstruction, but IMO grounding ought to be real time only. The mythical search for perfection is the problem.
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"I hate it when a good move for a try is scrubbed because of some microscopic 'loss of control' that can only be seen when slowing right down.
I've no issue with the vr being able to slow down for something like obstruction, but IMO grounding ought to be real time only. The mythical search for perfection is the problem.'"
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| Quote ="Bullseye"eusa_clap.gif'"
That idea would quickly fall down when a try is given by only looking at full speed and then they show a replay slowed down showing the ball was lost.
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| No it wouldn't if people accept mistakes. The problem with the vr is the expectation that they'll get decisions right because of the tech - multiple angles, slowmo etc. If you put a time limit on them - even 1 minute - people would accept that they get it wrong. Right now they spend an age and still mess it up.
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"No it wouldn't if people accept mistakes. '"
Have you seen the abuse referees are getting from supporters lately? there's no way people will accept mistakes, personally I try not to worry too much about the ref, they make far fewer mistakes than the players on the pitch
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| Refs are an easy bash, hides a multitude of team failures.
Same with the RL past time of accusing the RFL of bias / incompetence every fricking week.
Yes there are issues but to some people, you'll just never ever please them.
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| Sorry disagree the standard & consistency of the officials in SL is shocking.
It doesnt help with a gloit like Ganson been in charge nor does it making them "untouchable".
Granted some "rules" need tweeking to help them & i dont think anyone should expect them to be pefect but the standards imo should be way higher & where performances dont meet those standards they should be culpable.
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| The introduction of the VR detracted from the spectacle as far as I'm concerned. So what if the on field ref makes a mistake? It's a game ATEOTD.
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| Quote ="RHINO-MARK"Sorry disagree the standard & consistency of the officials in SL is shocking.
'" The problem we have here is that, in reality, it really isn't. It's just the awfully skewed views of some fans, most of whom based on my experience amongst them don't really understand the rules.
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| Quote ="RHINO-MARK"Sorry disagree the standard & consistency of the officials in SL is shocking.
It doesnt help with a gloit like Ganson been in charge nor does it making them "untouchable".
Granted some "rules" need tweeking to help them & i dont think anyone should expect them to be pefect but the standards imo should be way higher & where performances dont meet those standards they should be culpable.'"
couldn’t Agree more, it is clear as day, and only really people who don’t go who really say different.
As I said the other day with the CC final as an example, how the mistakes made there, and especially the video ref ones, are accepted by the game, is why there is the problems there is.
Mistakes do happen though, I think that can be accepted. What isn’t is when we do have the clear picture in front of all and time to make that decision, and still the error is made.
Keep saying it, but for me if refs actually looked and understood the rules, and then adopted that, then things would be so much easier. It’s the interpretations they personally make of the rules, depending which way the wind blows, and how inconsistent each one is personally with those interpretations, that is the problem. They should all be reffing to a degree the same way, but they don’t.
I don’t think they are helped if honest for balance, by the players. The clear cheating that goes on by players to win penalties does not help anyone. However, far from resolving that, the refs near always seem to go on the side of the player actually doing the cheating. And that is a frustration for all. Do they not watch the games after and their performance?
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| I stopped blaming refs after the 2000 CC Final against the Bulls. I spent the whole match berating Ganson for bad decisions which I was convinced cost us the match. I was fuming all the way home and was so angry I watched the match on tape as soon as I got home. Unbelievably he got just about every call right.
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| Some of the current crop of refs seem particularly annoying and nerdy to me.
Regarding decision making and quality my mind wanders down memory lane to the likes of robin Whitfield and I realise they aren’t so bad after all.
Massive game for Hudds tonight at FC. From a Leeds angle If they lose they will then need to go and get a result next week at Saints to get past us (whatever we do) barring some crazy score lines.
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| I actually think Hudds are in the most trouble...
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"I actually think Hudds are in the most trouble...'" So do I although they have Catalan at home last game of the season.
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| Quote ="fanstanningley"So do I although they have Catalan at home last game of the season.'"
Lots if possubilities yet, but i still reckong Hull kr v London will be relegation decider loser going down.
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| It all starts again tonight, back on tenter hooks
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| Hudds have pulled a result out of the bag. Adds more interest / nerves
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| If HKR win and we lose everyone back on 20 points again and we have 2 tough games left...
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"If HKR win and we lose everyone back on 20 points again and we have 2 tough games left...'"
1 win and we will be safe.
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| Hull KR Lose and we win Sunday we are safe on the basis of Hull KR and London playing each other next week.
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| Quote ="Frosties."Hull KR Lose and we win Sunday we are safe on the basis of Hull KR and London playing each other next week.'"
And that puts us (Wakefield) safe due to points difference (Barring some absolute wipe out scorelines in the last few weeks) So I am hoping for the same
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