Correct WRT last England win against Australia.

Opening World Cup fixture at Wembley in 1995 against an ARL-selected Australian team. Result 20-16.

There have been 4 GB wins during the SL era.

1997 V Super League Australian side - 20-12 at Old Trafford.
2001 V Australia - 20-12 at Huddersfield (post 9/11 tour fracas).
2004 V Australia - 24-12 at JJB Wigan.
2006 V Australia - 23-12 in Sydney.

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GB: Played 18, Won 4, Lost 14
ENG: Played 8, Won 0, Lost 8
TOTAL: Played 26, Won 4, Lost 22

The England stats make for extremely depressing reading.

England are hopeless when it comes to internationals.

Can compete with NZ, on home soil. That's it.

Can we have our record vs France instead? That usually makes better reading.

Our record against NZ isn't bad to be fair

I miss winter rugby League. I think it may now be worth considering a re-evaluation of the winter season. There are some major benefits to switching back to the old timings.
Of course there is the weather issue, but frankly we start the season in Feb anyway and finish in October. The pitches these days are kept in much better condition than when I started watching the game and there is the option for much better artificial surfaces. Also, if they can do it in Union with the damage they do at scrums, rucks and mauls then we should be able to cope. The thought of having something to watch during winter and the real possibility of proper tours again must surely make it worth considering.

Winter rugby league!!!! Bring it back now!

Winter rugby league - coming back?
Absolutely no chance when Sky calls the tune.
Plus it would be useless for the Rhinos with Yorkshire Carnegie sharing the facilities.
I don't disagree with the sentiment though, there's nothing better on a cold bright, sunny, winter's Sunday afternoon than wrapping up warm & watching a game at Headingley, unless of course it's a game of kick & clap.

There's also nothing worse than trying to tempt people out of their homes into freezing rain and sleet to watch a knockonathon in sub-zero temperatures. The "floating" fan's cash is king, season ticket holders will turn up anyway and you've already got their money if they don't. Add in the problems with games being snowed/frozen off and rearranging fixtures midweek, the demands of those teams who share stadiums with football clubs and the idea of winter becomes less appealing to clubs than it might be to fans.

Absolutely.Sky and its money is what keeps the game alive and it will stay a summer sport as long as that is the case.

Although i, and i am sure many on here have great memories of Sunday afternoons pre SL things move on.The only real thing i miss these days greatly is the GB test series/tours, its a real shame the 4 nations thing and england brand is something i suppose but nothing close to what we had.

The way it was played out compared to now, didn't winter rugby only work out a few months difference anyway? i.e. playing in november/december instead of june/july....or something like that.

You forgot to mention the joy of watching them do the wrestling stuff that continues to make the game so much more watchable than it used to be

Booo!! Misery.

You're right, today's scientifically conditioned full time professionals couldn't possibly handle the epoxy grip dimpled wonder ball they use these days playing in the cold, sometimes twice a week, like their part time ancestors used to with a lump of polished wet soap. And fans are soft as $h!te as well.

Some of them can't handle the epoxy grip dimpled wonder ball in the dry conditions of summer.

Well deserved from souths, scoreline reflected the game. Thought Inglis or G.Burgess should have won clive churchill. Tremendous scenes at the end.

James Graham one of the games best props over the last decade......8 GF - 1 win

Ian Kirke......5 GF - 5 wins

Graham is a thousand times the player kirke has been. Neither GF record is down to the respective player.

Cheers for the insight, for a few minutes there I genuinely thought it was based solely on those two.

Cheers for acknowledging my insight.

thats very funny =D pity someone had a sense of humour failure over it

Common sense says Wigan will win tomorrow but I've just got a feeling that Saints will win.

Always go with common sense, Saints love to go to Old Trafford and lose, that's what they do and they've got it down to an art form. There is no team in the history of Super League that have been quite as successful at losing Grand Finals as St Helens and tomorrow I don't think they'll disappoint.

Something about Leeds and Challenge Cup Finals springs to mind about that theory though.

saints fans have been borrowing our phrase 'never write off the Saints' from when they were annually writing us off and they have spent all year up to now writing themselves off.

Either way we'll have someone to laugh at.

Wigan for a trophyless season or saints for losing at OT again.

Indeed. We broke our jinx. Time for Stains to do the same.