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| Quote ="chapylad"Listening to the game on the radio there was also a doubt about Garbutt playing at the ball when it was kicked through giving Widnes head and feed which then resulted in a try.
All in all we appeared to have stuck to the task for the most part of the game.
Shame Delaney and JJB were not given a break that might have helped us even more.
From what has been said it is hoped Sutcliffe stays at centre for the Cats game and we bring Lilley in to partner Myler.
Also pleased to hear on radio that Golding made 2 or 3 try saving tackles to keep Widnes out.
If he continues playing well will Walker come straight back in to the team or will Golding retain his place?'"
I didn't think Garbutt played at the kick - he rushed the kicker with good luck pressure and the ball hit him, but for me it was because of how close he got, rather than making an actual play at the ball.
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| Also, I'm not sure how Inu wasn't sin binned for his shoulder charge straight after the scuffle. He steamed in from out wide and blindsided the man with a tucked arm blatant shoulder charge that was penalised. Now I don't agree with the rule, but if the rule is that deliberate foul play is a yellow card, then it doesn't come more deliberate than that.
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| Keinhorst having a scan on his knee after getting a knock on Sunday. Likely to miss Catalans game.
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| all this first month of the season .You would think injury pile up would kick in much later
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| Don't know what the injury timescales were but isn't it about time Galloway and Ferres put in an appearance ?
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| Quote ="marathonman"Don't know what the injury timescales were but isn't it about time Galloway and Ferres put in an appearance ?'"
See previous scale on another page.
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| Quote ="Superted"Also, I'm not sure how Inu wasn't sin binned for his shoulder charge straight after the scuffle. He steamed in from out wide and blindsided the man with a tucked arm blatant shoulder charge that was penalised. Now I don't agree with the rule, but if the rule is that deliberate foul play is a yellow card, then it doesn't come more deliberate than that.'"
It was very, very dangerous. I haven’t seen someone lifted off their feet like that for a while. It was car crash stuff, and how Hicks kept his card in his pocket is anyone’s guess. People go on about James Child, but for me Hicks is by far the worst ref in Superleague.
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| What was wrong with Hall and Briscoe yesterday?
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| Quote ="chapylad"
Also pleased to hear on radio that Golding made 2 or 3 try saving tackles to keep Widnes out.
If he continues playing well will Walker come straight back in to the team or will Golding retain his place?'"
I don’t see Walker coming back into the team next week if he’s fit. Golding was outstanding yesterday, caught a lot of nasty high balls under pressure, and returned the ball with a lot more intent than last season. For me it’s his shirt to lose now.
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| Quote ="chapylad"What was wrong with Hall and Briscoe yesterday?'"
Tonsylitis and sciatica respectively.
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| Cheers.
Hall should be fit to face Cats then with a packet of strepsils in his pocket.
I would also hope Golding keeps his place until either injury forces him out or he plays like a donkey.
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| Quote ="chapylad"Cheers.
Hall should be fit to face Cats then with a packet of strepsils in his pocket.
I would also hope Golding keeps his place until either injury forces him out or he plays like a donkey.'"
Mcdermott said Hall will miss two weeks.
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| Oh great.
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| Really didn't expect to get anything from this game. For various reasons, we have a terrible recent away record against Widnes and with the current injury woes the omens for improving this record were not good. Let's just hope we can come through this early season injury crisis not too far off the pace of the SL front runners.
Wakey joint top...jeez there's still hope for us all.
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| if we lose this and with an injury list this long I hope things don't become reminiscent of 2016
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| It could be a long 6 weeks or so until bodies return.
At Warrington we scored 2 tries from kicks so why haven't we kicked the ball since? Running the ball on the last on that surface where it could bounce anywhere seems crazy to me.
I think Myler is ok (not much more than that) but I think he will improve as season goes on but am I only one who thinks Dwyer is a poor signing and never Leeds class? He will come up with occasional dart but his rugby brain is non existent for me and I wouldn't want to play with him. He's as likely to scoot on last in his own half as anything. As a first receiver he must be a nightmare.
As for Sutcliffe he has talent but let's games drift along when he needs to get involved more. Never a half.
Keinhorst looked to be limping most of 2nd half which is worrying.
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| Keinhorst is going for a scan on an injured knee I believe.
Agree with the Sutcliffe views too.
Maybe we should offer Briscoe and Sutcliffe plus £75k for Tom Johnstone instead of the reportedly £150k plus Keinhorst.
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| While I agree about Sutcliffe not being a six it’s got to be frustrating for him spending the off season working on being a centre now four games in and he’s played a game and a half there and is back to being shunted around again, why not play the fit half back (lilley) instead of him bringing the kicking T on.
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"It could be a long 6 weeks or so until bodies return.
At Warrington we scored 2 tries from kicks so why haven't we kicked the ball since? Running the ball on the last on that surface where it could bounce anywhere seems crazy to me.
I think Myler is ok (not much more than that) but I think he will improve as season goes on but am I only one who thinks Dwyer is a poor signing and never Leeds class? He will come up with occasional dart but his rugby brain is non existent for me and I wouldn't want to play with him. He's as likely to scoot on last in his own half as anything. As a first receiver he must be a nightmare.
As for Sutcliffe he has talent but let's games drift along when he needs to get involved more. Never a half.
Keinhorst looked to be limping most of 2nd half which is worrying.'"
I actually like Dwyer, so at this stage I wouldn't agree with you Marty. Think he has shown enough to show a good impact for the team so far.
The situation with the stand off is pretty criminal for a club like Leeds. We don't have a good stand off throughout the whole club outside the under 16's. That is not very good going, we get away with it, but still not good going. I am including Moon in that, because whilst I think he is the best option we have, I don't think he is of the standard we should quite rightly expect of a top club. He should, if we had a decent stand off, be back at centre where he is miles above the likes of Sutcliffe and Keinhorst.
I agree with you on the kicks by the way, but think Sunday was probably more a case of the wingers used are not the same standard as those at Warrington, to repeat the act.
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| Bit too early to form an overall judgment on either Myler or Dwyer for me.for the next month at least Myler is likely to be playing off a pack on the back foot for a lot of the time and Dwyer will be asked to do different roles to the one he will have when we have a fitter squad of players to pick from.
At the moment the whole team is forced to do it tough and its a case of trying to grind out a few results and keep us in a decent position.
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| I think the next round of recruitment by GH is going to be very interesting
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| With parcel having a rare of day I thought we looked better when Dwyer was on.
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| Quote ="chapylad"Keinhorst is going for a scan on an injured knee I believe.
Agree with the Sutcliffe views too.
Maybe we should offer Briscoe and Sutcliffe plus £75k for Tom Johnstone instead of the reportedly £150k plus Keinhorst.'"
And then you woke up with your head in a bowl of cornflakes!
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| Quote ="Jackie brown"And then you woke up with your head in a bowl of cornflakes!'"
Tom Johnstone would be a great signing.......we could use him as a battering ram in middle and give him no ball or chances on wing. He's a tremendous talent but he would be wasted at Leeds (sigh)
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| Quote ="Jackie brown"And then you woke up with your head in a bowl of cornflakes!'"
Now if you would have said coco pops I could have agreed with you there.
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