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| massive difference. we are in a major transition. you've been building towards this for 2/3 years. after leading from the front for so long it would be far worse for you to win nothing than us
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| Quote ="invmatt"Can't really call it a cup final when you haven't beaten us since that game and since then you've gone on to lose by over 50 points twice.
Still I'm sure it must hurt losing to a small town on the outskirts of Wakefield with an old aging stadium and players deemed unworthy for your grand elite club.
We'll just go back to being happy where we currently are, if we win a final this year then this season will mean something otherwise ah well, at least it's better than being at the bottom of the league and the team that others used to put 50+ on.'"
Doesn't hurt at all. Winning Trophies as always feels great. Smashing Cas at Wembley will be with me until I die! No trophies are handed out when you beat us.
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| Quote ="invmatt"Can't really call it a cup final when you haven't beaten us since that game and since then you've gone on to lose by over 50 points twice.
Still I'm sure it must hurt losing to a small town on the outskirts of Wakefield with an old aging stadium and players deemed unworthy for your grand elite club.
We'll just go back to being happy where we currently are, if we win a final this year then this season will mean something otherwise ah well, at least it's better than being at the bottom of the league and the team that others used to put 50+ on.'"
We did beat you at the jungle in 2015. First match we played against you in that season. Not that it counts for much given the next five games against you
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| No Ben Roberts for Cas, Hardaker in the 19 but they say he faces a late fitness test.
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| I hope Castleford can maintain their form and win some silverware this season - that remains the acid test for any side. I really enjoy their brand of rugby when on song - always have since the H's days down t'lane.
A new name on a trophy can only be good for the SL familey as a collective - break open the boring monopoly.
Until it happens though a section of Leeds fans will continue to engage in hopefully well meaning friendly banter with visiting Cas fans.
My prediction for Sunday is on the record elsewhere, Cas by 20 - hope that's wrong and not in a bad way for Leeds.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"Doesn't hurt at all. Winning Trophies as always feels great. Smashing Cas at Wembley will be with me until I die! No trophies are handed out when you beat us.'"
Jesus on a cross. That 66-10 score still hurts doesn't it ?
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| Is it my imagination or does Ashton Golding look like he is in drag?
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| Quote ="PrinterThe"No Ben Roberts for Cas, Hardaker in the 19 but they say he faces a late fitness test.'"
He can only play one game before he gets an injury - worse than Delanney
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| Quote ="Cas Till I Die"I'm really not trolling, one of your fellow fans was being arrogant but obviously forgot that times have changed..... no longer on this forum does anyone hear "it's cas cup final" instead we hear how we haven't won anything.... seems it's now a bit more like your cup final. The last 2 times you have played us you have been humiliated, you can't really argue that we are the best team in Yorkshire when every team has played each other and we are sitting top of the league.'"
it will stop being your cup final when you start taking beating the likes of Leeds for granted instead of celebrating in the manner that you are doing . there is nothing unusual for a club like yours being talked about as the best team. Its not that long ago the Fev really were the best team and they proved it
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| Lots of quotes here about trophies, I might join a liverpool FC forum so I can read the same things about past glories. Just remember ladies and gents that before 2004 it took you 32 years To win a championship, what's to say it might not be a little longer this time ??? And I know historically we haven't won what you have but let's be honest we are a town of 40k not a major U.K. City of over half a million.. historically you should have won more in a minor northern sport but for a city steeped in sporting failure such as yours I doubt you will care
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| Quote ="Cas Till I Die"Lots of quotes here about trophies, I might join a liverpool FC forum so I can read the same things about past glories. Just remember ladies and gents that before 2004 it took you 32 years To win a championship, what's to say it might not be a little longer this time ??? And I know historically we haven't won what you have but let's be honest we are a town of 40k not a major U.K. City of over half a million.. historically you should have won more in a minor northern sport but for a city steeped in sporting failure such as yours I doubt you will care
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I'd rather bang on about recent past glories and title wins than half a season of good home performances.
If Cas are so good then why not show a bit of patience and wait a few months when Cas inevitably sweep up the trophies this year to tell us you're now the top team in West Yorkshire? You worried it might not happened so desperate to have your pat on the head now in case the chance goes begging in a few months?
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| I like the way Cas play and I will not begrudge them if they win with good rugby. They have been lucky to have kept Gale fit over recent seasons as most of their play goes through him. Without Gale they will be no where near as effective. This highlights the need for Leeds to sign a specialist quality half back even if only for a couple of seasons to allow youngsters to come through.
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| Cas are the best side in the comp at the moment and they are clearly the darlings of the media and rightly so
Cas do remind me a lot of Warrington when they were in their pomp when they were regularly winning the Challenge Cup (but couldn't win a Grand Final even if it was handed on a plate for them,They lost in a GF to the lowest ever ranked finalists in the Rhinos,They also blew a big first half lead in 2013 before being hammered by Wigan)
My opinion on sides that are in their pomp is that they have to deliver the trophies
Say what you want about the Rhinos but we certainly delivered the silverware on a regular basis when we were the media darlings
Will Cas be another Wolves or will they full fill their potential and win the trophies that are there's for the taking this year?
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| Cas by plenty. They'll be steady for the first quarter then they'll bring the big units on and take control. How narky are some loiners about little Cas? Funny!
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"Great trolling! I'm on the hook! As has been said Hudds were the dominant team in Yorkshire for quite a few years! Their dominance so great they won nowt! Just like Cas. Cas fans are dining out on league wins. That says it's still your cup final, where as we hammered you the last time we were in an actual final.
Come back when you win something. Until then go f*ck ya sister who might be your mother!
Hook line and sinker!'"
You beat us 23 10. Hardly a hammering. With 15 minutes to go in was 16-10. The following tea against KR was a hammering. Dont forget just 18 months previous we had been rock bottom , coach sacked and a laughing stock of the league. We are better equipped this season with far more quality then the 2014 side which came close to winning the cup and LLS. How does your side compare this season to your 2014/15 side ?
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| Is my old pal agent provocateur still on here? Probably been banned as he wasnt popular with the sensitive types.
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| Not sure whether a half back is on the way given McDermott's comments about Moon.
Guess there are a few variables with McGuire burrow and Lilley at the club.
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| To put it in perspective Powell said early in the year it wasn't all about this season as he was building something special for the next few seasons.
Steve Gill has also said we are 2 seasons in front of where we planned to be at this stage.
Contract extensions of our best players and some superb young talent coming through would seem to give some credence to all this.
Prepare to be 2nd best for quite a few more years yet.
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| Quote ="Towns88"You beat us 23 10. Hardly a hammering. With 15 minutes to go in was 16-10. The following tea against KR was a hammering. Dont forget just 18 months previous we had been rock bottom , coach sacked and a laughing stock of the league. We are better equipped this season with far more quality then the 2014 side which came close to winning the cup and LLS. How does your side compare this season to your 2014/15 side ?'"
You were battered in that game, like a rabbit in the headlights. One sided final. Outclassed in every department.
I don't really care about the actual Cas team in terms of what happens next. I've been very open about my support for Cas and always had a soft spot for them as I played my junior rugby in the Cas and District comp. I've always said if Saints could be at the top then why can't Cas. It's good to see.
But many a good team before haven't gone on to dominate. Cas fans are acting like a teenager watching his first porno! Dining out on League wins and mocking Leeds for brining up former glorys when we were still defending champions this time last year.
Banjo strings being snapped at an alarming rate!
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Jesus on a cross. That 66-10 score still hurts doesn't it ?'"
Honestly the close loss at your place last Easter hurt more.
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| Quote ="The Biffs Back"Will Cas be another Wolves or will they full fill their potential and win the trophies that are there's for the taking this year?'"
They may not even reach warrington's heady heights. After all, wire did win the CC 3 times, was it, during their glory years.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"You were battered in that game, like a rabbit in the headlights. One sided final. Outclassed in every department.'"
I agree that Castleford under performed but Leeds were fortunate that they did going into the game with a negative attacking game plan and sticking to it. The end result justified the means for that golden generation to complete the set but I'd imagine it was a poor game for any neutrals to watch.
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| Quote ="tvoc"I agree that Castleford under performed but Leeds were fortunate that they did going into the game with a negative attacking game plan and sticking to it. The end result justified the means for that golden generation to complete the set but I'd imagine it was a poor game for any neutrals to watch.'"
I agree but it was the prefect game plan. it totally nullified cas. whilst not pretty in finals its all about winning.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"I agree but it was the prefect game plan. it totally nullified cas. whilst not pretty in finals its all about winning.'"
I agree with this. Its a cup final and you do what you have to if you want to kift the trophy. Pinning us in our own 20 nearly every set worked a treat for Leeds.
Please understand us Cas fans have to enjoy what we have going at moment. Im worried we may do a Huddersfield and drop off in a year or 2 so got to make the most of it while it lasts and if that means bragging a lot then I apologise haha. But like many have said. Its ok bigging ourselves up but if we cant make it count when it happens we will always be the team that were good but bottled it. A little like the current Tottenham team.
50 years from now speaking to my grandkids -
me: You should of seen the Cas team of 2017
Grandson: Why what did they do?
Me: We put the pressure on the big teams but bottled it.
Hope I wont be saying that and we actually win something.
As for tomorrow. Will be much closer than our last meeting. No Benny Roberts possibly no Zak. Can see single digits in it eitherway. Hopefully be a great game to cap the weekend off.
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| Hardaker's fitness will be interesting if he plays. Wouldn't normally suggest kicking to him but maybe we should test his fitness and his ankle and make him run about.
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