Are you sure? i at least remember us losing to Huddersfield in dire circumstances in a last game but that could have been 2012! either way, i really don't think a defeat matters next week, we just need a fresh squad for the week after.

And if we then won all our play off games would there be anybody who cared?

Credit to Wigan for aggressive defence, not always legal but they knocked us back . Once again our ptb area was slow all night. Thought aiton played well.
My main worry is some of our senior players look tired and jaded. Obviously last weeks game sapped our energy levels. Likewise with saints.
I will never write off this current rhinos team, but it's going to be a tough play off series.
One thinks for certain who ever we play away from home will be apprehensive .

Credit to Wigan for aggressive defence, not always legal but they knocked us back . Once again our ptb area was slow all night. Thought aiton played well.
My main worry is some of our senior players look tired and jaded. Obviously last weeks game sapped our energy levels. Likewise with saints.
I will never write off this current rhinos team, but it's going to be a tough play off series.
One thinks for certain who ever we play away from home will be apprehensive .

You really think that we will win all our playoff games? We will beat Catalans at home, the fall against the next team we play away.

Stranger things... With a full side out we'll have an outside chance.

Not sure where this we were up against some poor decisions from the ref comes from.
Thought he missed a fair bit from both sides.
Wigan players reefing the ball out and Leeds knocking on twice that got missed spring to mind.
Wigan were the better team and fully deserved their win.
Farrell for me was MoM with Smith not far behind.
Sinfield was pish poor tonight worse game from him for at least a month!

Nobody can contest the effort, commitment and team ethic....but the lack of creativity in attack continues to haunt. Sutcliffe does not appear to be a halfback IMO; Sinfield really should only be considered a forward. Hooker...OR surprise surprise LF for me.

Poor old Stevie Ward....Clarkson mark two. The young uns certainly do not appear to 'kick on' under the present stewardship. Sutcliffe will probably go the same way.

Delaney looked knackered

I do hope you used that word as a pun

Delaney always looks knackered

We [uDO[/u have a scrum half (who funnily enough wears the number 7 shirt) with electric pace going forward



Still think Moon is potentially the best SO at the club.....

Moon was tried at Brisbane in the halves and found to be seriously wanting

100% wrong Sal and not for the first time. At least with blinkers on I can see straight..... it must be hard relying on your guide dog to read for you.



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I have defended McGuire this season as IMO with the odd exception he has played well. Shame Rover isn't up to scratch!

That was then....and it was the NRL .....SL (especially these days) will not prove to be quite so much a challenge I suspect

Credit to Wigan for a fast aggressive defense. With help from the ref they slowed down our PTBs and without three of our best attackers it was always going to be a struggle. Sinfield had one of those off days as did Hardaker and Watkins has lost some zip.

I think most of the players put in real effort especially just after half time when we looked like getting back in the game until errors gave away possession and momentum. I thought there were the usual big efforts from JP, JJB and Aiton and Achurch did ok too.

If we are to progress in the play offs we do need Burrow and McGuire back and on song

T.he team would have to attack to the right there would be no room to the left

Good. Maybe Watkins might get some quality ball in space

He would need to be a lot better than tonight - not his finest hour

Have to agree (ball retention especially)....another one that seems to be going backwards under McDermott's tenure.

from watching it on the telly, most of Leeds' pack looked lacklustre and despite having little in attack (in part due to missing personnel), it could be the forwards that cause most worries for the rest of the season.

I think Watkins has been carrying a hip injury for a while. They looked knackered tonight, not surprising though. Really worry for Stevie Ward - bumped off a few times and doesn't impact in attack. I'm hoping an injury free preseason will help

We were actually quite good when we did not have the ball we even scored our try near enough without it . When we had the ball

When we had the ball it was never for long. Some horrendous ball control. If we'd held it better in the second half, I thought we stood a chance.

On a positive, Keinhorst played pretty well. Obviously not going to displace Moon or Watkins but better than our other stand- in options this year, and better than I remember him being before he went to Wakey.

Must have watched a different game to me , Keinhorst , Achurch , Ward and Briscoe offer nothing and are all accidents waiting to happen