So what do we learn from this? GH clearly knows better than the fans!

Correct, but the fans are allowed an opinion which is not worth a light!

I`m available and qualified.

Any thoughts on the salary range the club should provide. Also you will have to give serious thought as to what should be your company car . My pal has just bought the latest top of the range jaguar,it's superb so that might do the trick for you.
Don't forget you will need company shares , plus an indexed linked pension.

I would only settle for a contract equal to Stuart Lancasters..............

He was there again last Friday night. I was talking to him on way out of ground.

I hope you told him a few home truths!!!.

Picking up some top tips and ideas no doubt.

My post was in reference to the comments on here about GH & McD being distracted by the speculation re the coach's long term (or even short term) future.
GH does indeed take heed of the fans when it's in his & the club's interest to do so. The recently announced deal for the purchase of next year's season tickets being in my view the latest manifestation of this.

The first thing we learn is that some fans have poor recollection of detail - unless you also think Leeds would try to copy a fellow existing SL club's 'nickname' in 1997.

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McDermott took a London side that in the ten SL seasons prior to his arrival had averaged a 6.7 league table finish and after four full seasons in charge left them in 13th having averaged 10.5

It's easy to see what the Leeds CEO sees in him - I doubt it's related to talent.

How does that compare to his leeds stint so far ???

Yes because others have done so much better since with that London team haven't they.

And let's not gloss over that was his first super league coaching job. If you performed as well in your job in your first year than you do after 4-5 years experience then you are doing something seriously wrong.

Meanwhile, Mac has demonstrated his ability in coaching with several successful seasons with us already, but that doesn't suit your agenda does it.

When Tony Smith was Leeds coach there were many people who were of the opinion that most of the success was down to his assistant. Some of those fans are the same fans calling for his head now.

I do not think forums are truly representative of fans opinions. The regular posters are made up the retired or the unemployed and feature a high percentage of the complainers.

Some posters express very strange logic with regard to changing the coach.

Before, these same posters wanted him out in his first season. They then had to take a large bite of humble pie as Mac got to Wembley and won the Championship. Showing the same impatience in his second season there were calls again for a change. Mac once more confounded these self declared sages as he again took the team to the Cup Final and a second Championship win.

Having been so wrong twice before these keyboard coaches grasped at a failure to win a third Championships on the trot as proof that Mac wasn't up to the job and they had been right all along, despite a serious injury handicap.

Now despite a good first half of the season and still in 2nd spot and the Cup semi the knives are out yet again from these so-faithful supporters. Their latest logic is that a new coach is required to oversee the up coming changes in the squad caused by retirements of key players.

For some it hasn't dawned yet that BM has been managing a transition since he arrived. Replacements for Web, Ali, Buderus, Smith etc a new set of backs already in place, several talented young players now with first team experience. A new proven NRL prop already signed to cover one key spot. He (and GH) are half way already in the transitional period.

There is no logic to say that another coach would be better to complete the job. In fact there is logic in saying it would be a greater gamble for a new coach to win over the aging stars who will still be key to our success over the next couple of seasons. If it ain't broke don't fix it.

The only glossing over appears to be by those who want to ignore McDermott taking London down the league year on year.



Under you own terms of reference isn't that precisely what happened to London under McDermott?



What agenda? McDermott is IMO a very poor coach whose teams put in largely sub-standard collective performances relying almost entirely on individual efforts. As in all walks of life you get what you pay for.

As opposed to glossing over the decline in resources at London as the club itself declined. Considering no coach at London after McDermott has done any better wouldn't it make more sense to look at issues at club level rather than at the coach?

For instance the leaving of Lenagan and the emergence of Hughes seems to co-incide with their decline.

What research have you done to come to that conclusion?

I'm not a regular poster these days but when I was this was not something that was ever apparent to me.

Some excellent points made there particularly on the rebuilding restructuring already achieved in terms of the back line and now started on the pack.

Yes the halfback/pivot roles will need attention next but I guess it s all a question of priorities and that maybe is a subjective matter that everyone will have a different view on.

McDs overall record at Leeds is impressive IMHO in terms of trophies and deserves some respect.

Nobody who is fully employed would have the time to make so many posts as some do during working hours. Are you suggesting these regular posters are moonlighting when they should be working?

Is the fact that Leeds are 2nd in the table and in the Cup semi and you no longer a regular poster just a coincidence then?

That's not what you said previously though is it?

You said retired or unemployed.




I'm not suggesting anything other that questioning the research behind your claim that 'the regular posters are made up the retired or the unemployed.'

IIRC in 2012 London were assumed to be one of the SL clubs spending the full salary cap. Not sure that chimes with a coaching staff being deprived of resources (on the field at least) under David Hughes tenure. Hard as it is to believe there were/still are distinctly average coaches employed in SL.

That's a big assumption you're making in that first sentence without anything whatsoever to back it up!
Now onto this coaching debate does he also sh## gold coins?
Lets be honest im more than happy to admit he proved me wrong it was great to see us come good and witness the Club/Team I've followed for over 30years were competing for and winning trophies.
However like most sports we deal in the here and now I as others have pointed out there is a "shelf life" or even in this case a "stick or twist" situation on the horizon I personally think the very least we need is a new no2 someone with afresh approach and able to help Mc and the team.
The Coaches just like players are not always going to be bang on that's a given it happens and whilst the over-view looks good with 2nd spot and a CC semi on the horizon the fine detail amongst it needs addressing does it not or do we sit back and wait till we lose 2/3/4 major players at once or even the Coach?
Now I'm sure/hope GH has plans in place the opinions exchanged on here are just that and just as the "Sack the coach" calls obviously rankle with you this "he can do wrong" or anyone who thinks there are issues is "wrong" and don't represent the wider fan base is just as grating.
I don't just exchange views on here and whilst I will never claim to speak on anyone elses behalf but my own view with all due respect is that many fans are discussing the next stage re-Coaches and Players.

As big as wagon wheels.

Leeds' current situation is a complete irrelevance to my posting patterns - just as it will be if/when they are 5th and miss out on Wembley.

I`m self employed working hours 24/7 and still find time to post