I think your vague recollection events might be off, not that I take exception to it.

ETs second stint for Leeds was during the 1988/89 season. The previous kangaroo tour was 1986. The previous ashes series was 1988 down under. IIRC ET played in that series on the wing for Australia before joining Leeds for his second stint.

I do hope my vague recollection is accurate as I don't want you to take exception.

Your recollection of Ettingshausen's Test career may well be (and probably is) correct.

I recall he was miffed at missing out on the Kangaroo Tour and partly came to Leeds to prove a point to the selectors. That sense of injustice will have been heightened had he already gained Test caps in Australia so that would fit in quite nicely.

The more general point was that Ettinshausen was a replacement for Jackson backing out of a deal and he initially arrived in the UK as a complete unknown quantity, to me at least, as was McGaw coming along for the ride. Neither were major signing coups which was the impression given earlier by the poster mentioning them in the same breath as Crooks and Schofield's capture.

I still think you're getting yourself mixed up sir.

There could be every chance his first stint (1986/87) was due to being miffed about not being selected for the 1986 tour. However there would have been no sense of injustice prior to his second stint (1988/89) as he had already gained test selection by then in the 1988 ashes down under that immediately preceded his 2nd guest stint with Leeds. The next Ashes tour to GB was 1990.

If you really meant his sense of injustice was prior to his 1st Leeds stint it all makes sense. I'll give you that open door. Take it.

No doubt.



The only person it appears more miffed than ET at the snub was tvoc. It's still got him rattled twenty years on. Silly old goat.

I suspect someone will be hitting the scrapbooks tonight in search of the unpleasant truth.

Mine is all from the grey cells so I might have

blushes when the scrap books have been consulted.

Don't forget to put Batley out of his misery for me will you. No, not that way. In relation to the Dave Heron issue.

Gareth Hock???? You mean the Hunny Monster on Crack and ratboys his bitch

Good thread this.

Gaz hock has an uncanny resemblance to Michael Schumacher.

Fahct.

I think he looks like a young Boris Karloff

Yeah and your jamie jones buchanan looks like brad pitt........oh no a sweaty armpit

has jamie peacock gone for the george clooney look?....proper team of hollywood stars you have

Can anyone remember a player leeds have signed from another english club that wasnt past his best?

Easy Gareth Ellis,Keith Senior,JP,definately was not past his best,Iestin Harris etc

Gary Connolly.

It was meant as humour,your showing up your smalltown insularity up again

Dave Furner & Gary Connolly who helped us to our first title in 32 years while your huge decline continued.

Oh and talking about players past their best...Stuart Fielden

Bradford must have laughed all the way to the bank

32 years, you dont get that for murder these days

and then 3 at once. Tell me honestly was it good whilst it lasted.

Yup it was, just like a ride on yo Momma.

well in your past you have also gone along time between "drinks" on numerous occasions as a matter of fact you were a long time before "drinks"

Maybe so but never 32 years.

relegation and salaryap cheating and going bust meaning selling your ground so you have to pay rent means you are an unstable club and a dshonest one

32 years, let me see, how many Challenge cups have you lot won in the last 32 years?

About our share I'd say, maybe a couple less but if you extend it slightly we're OK!

There's no point being greedy - that's what makes everyone hate you

ie the same number as Sheffield, Halifax and Featherstone. Hardly big city club stuff.

But we dont look at things like that you see .You are showing yourselves up for god sake.Although I must say there was none of this before 2010

I forgot. Rugby League is all about clubs from big cities doing well. That's why our history is littered with successful teams from London, Paris, Cardiff, Birmingham, Manchester etc.

I'd happily see teams like Cas, Hull, Salford and Halifax (sorry Wakefield) become genuine contenders for silverware.