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| Quote ="tvoc"
As long as the opposition remain this inept anything is possible.'" Keep the faith, they don't get that much better. We'll be OK.
Hang on, you're dragging me down now.
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| Quote ="G1"Hang on, you're dragging me down now.'"
It's a long season, I'm looking forward to when it starts. Hopefully next Friday.
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| Quote ="G1"I agree entirely.
I think Gibson will need several first team games, at the very least, to get back to the level he was at before his knee re-construction. And the level he was at was very good. He'd ousted Toopi and was emerging very nicely. People forget that. People also under-estimate what it takes to recover from a knee re-construction.
I think Gibson will make a solid centre and hope we're patient with him.'"
he needs time.
yeah people seem to forget that he forced his way in with his form. Something that can happen for juniors under the right coach, even with international reputations in front of them. imagine that
Long term I think a power winger outside him would be a good match.
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| Quote ="G1"I disagree.
Yours,
Carl Ablett.'"
[url=http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/leeds-rhinos-news/Leeds-Rhinos-Boss-34pleased34-with.5070106.jpHe has had to play in the centres, though he's a back-rower.[/url
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| Quote ="tvoc"[url=http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/leeds-rhinos-news/Leeds-Rhinos-Boss-34pleased34-with.5070106.jpHe has had to play in the centres, though he's a back-rower.[/url
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'" Quote He has had to play in the centres, though he's a back-rower, and he will put his hand up, he'll have a crack at anything.
"He deserves a bit of a pat on the back, he did some nice things. He has got real potential.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Solid doesn't always cut it for the teams looking to win things. He did his knee around 23 months ago but my issue is not with the length of recovery time but rather that he was neither big enough or fast enough before it happened anyway. It's unlikely that a knee reconstruction will change that in a positive way and at 22 I don't see him developing his physique much further.
Out of contract at the end of the season and I'd be surprised if it's extended in anything other than making up the numbers capacity.'"
Although I agree with you on the fact that Gibson may not physically develop further at his age. He was a very promising threequarter, with alot of skill.
I seem to remember a lot of people slagging off Diskin after his return from a knee injury. Maybe we should give Gibson a little bit more time than 5 games in to the season . It's not like we have a huge chance of missing the top eight is it?
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| IMVHO I see the Gibson/Hall pairing as the future and with the potential to match the best.
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| Quote ="G1"Same build as Yeaman or Craig Innes even. I don;t think his size should hold him back.'"
He might be the same build but they must be 3 or 4" taller. I cannot think of any top quality centre who has been as short as Gibson. He will not be able to develop the power that is needed to go with his obvious skills. Not a dig at him, just as I see it. England & Leeds need a great centre to replace Senior, the best player of any position of the SL era IMO, it's not going to be Gibson I'm afraid.
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| Quote ="tigertot"He might be the same build but they must be 3 or 4" taller. '"
Isnt that what someone told Jason Robinson.....
Perhaps also thats why they have Burrow listed as 5ft 5in
yea right...that would make him only a foot shorter than Peacock.
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| Quote ="G1"Doesn't sound like Mclennan is too concerned about playing him in the cenrtes if needs be.
Neither am I.'"
Nice praise from McClennan after a back rower plays a full game in the back row and receives some well deserved plaudits. I don't recall any such kind words from McClennan when Ablett has filled in at centre. Perhaps I missed it?
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| Quote ="tvoc"Nice praise from McClennan after a back rower plays a full game in the back row and receives some well deserved plaudits. I don't recall any such kind words from McClennan when Ablett has filled in at centre. Perhaps I missed it?'" If I kept archives I'd dig through them.
Does Mclennan reserve all the praise for his players for the back pages of the YEP?
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| Quote ="G1"Centres are irrelevant. The spine of the team 1,6, 7, 9, 13 are what brings success.'"
Missing the point G1. We have world class players in positions 1,6,7,9 & 13 so you suggesting we sit on our laurels and don't try to strengthen the rest of the squad?
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| Quote ="tigertot"He might be the same build but they must be 3 or 4" taller. I cannot think of any top quality centre who has been as short as Gibson. He will not be able to develop the power that is needed to go with his obvious skills. Not a dig at him, just as I see it. England & Leeds need a great centre to replace Senior, the best player of any position of the SL era IMO, it's not going to be Gibson I'm afraid.'"
How tall was Scott Gibbs? Or Inga Tuigamala?
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| Quote ="RoyFrancis"Missing the point G1. We have world class players in positions 1,6,7,9 & 13 so you suggesting we sit on our laurels and don't try to strengthen the rest of the squad?'" Those positions have been filled by home-grown players this season.
We have the opportunity to develop another couple in Watkins and Gibson.
Or we could go out and sign a World Class centre like, say, erm, Matt King.
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| With Smiths alledged impending move to Saracens in June and Eastwoods visa problem will GH just go with what we have got or pull out another signing mid term ?
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| Quote ="G1"Those positions have been filled by home-grown players this season.
We have the opportunity to develop another couple in Watkins and Gibson.
Or we could go out and sign a World Class centre like, say, erm, Matt King.'"
Good point G1 , Thing is IMO this years so called challengers are way behind Leeds / Saints at the moment and we may not need anyone anyway
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| Quote ="TDR"How tall was Scott Gibbs? Or Inga Tuigamala?'"
5'10" & 5'11" respectively according to wiki. Fantasy RL profile has Gibson as 5'7".
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| Quote ="DoubleAone"Isnt that what someone told Jason Robinson.....
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This is a thread about centres, do try & keep up.
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| Quote ="tigertot"This is a thread about centres, do try & keep up.'"
Its relevant..... to your suspect hypothesis that relative height as any bearing on skill and aptitude
do try harder
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| Quote ="G1"If I kept archives I'd dig through them.
Does Mclennan reserve all the praise for his players for the back pages of the YEP?'"
All McClennan's YEP online quotes are catalogued and cross referenced to players. If he'd said it I'd be able to produce it. Perhaps the YEP was offline that night.
I'd say that was probably Ablett's best game so far for Leeds.
Quote ="G1"We have the opportunity to develop another couple in Watkins and Gibson.'"
Gibson offers very little and at 22 his time has passed to stand out for a leading club. Time to move on to the next big thing.
Develop Watkins yes, at 18 he has some real potential. Whether playing first team rugby week in, week out is going to be the best place to achieve that we'll have to wait and see.
Very loose against Wigan but it was only Wigan so perhaps we'll have to wait for when the tough games come round to see if his understandable inexperience costs Leeds.
Watched an 18 year old playing for Canterbury yesterday, I wish they made them like that in Leeds. How many more like him are there over there. It might be a chance for them to experience a different culture before they run up a string of convictions that prevent them coming over later on.
Not sure what potential there is coming through the Reserve at present if the results are anything to go by.
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Not sure what potential there is coming through the Reserve at present if the results are anything to go by.'"
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| Quote ="tad rhino"and that is a worry'"
Most of the reserves are still U18s. The best reserves seem to be sent out on loan or brought into the first team. That seems to have been the case over the last year or so as far as I can see.
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| Quote ="tigertot"5'10" & 5'11" respectively according to wiki. Fantasy RL profile has Gibson as 5'7".'"
if you'd used the same source for your information on all of those players you'd have Gibson at 5'11"
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| Wouldn't mind the Bulldogs number 4 from watching todays game against Manly.Looked awesome and a ridiculous hair do to boot
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| Quote ="LeedsPokerGuru"bit harsh. He looked good when he was breaking in. What he lacks in power he makes up for in pace, footwork and hands. More of a finesse player. The he got injured.
last night he showed glimpses. He sucked in wing and centre and flicked a ball out to Donald but did little else. Wigan didn't make him defend that much so can't comment. He made less mistakes than watkins to boot. In between plays he was breathing heavy so I suspect he's still short of fitness. Give him time to get up to fitness then judge.'" Gibbo looks a yard short of pace for mine.I do think though if the club are patient with him he could turn out to a solid centre.
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