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| Am I alone in thinking that it might, or might not, have been a dangerous tackle of sorts, but even if it was, not in actual fact the worst I've seen on a rugby field?
Disciplinary will decide whether they think it was reckless/dangerous, Hardaker seems to be OK. I don't think I actually care.
The effect it has on RL discussion forums is oddly fascinating though. I'd like to pilot trial by RL discussion forum for criminal cases. Anyone want to give me some funding to do it?
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| Quote ="El Diablo"Am I alone in thinking that it might, or might not, have been a dangerous tackle of sorts, but even if it was, not in actual fact the worst I've seen on a rugby field?
Disciplinary will decide whether they think it was reckless/dangerous, Hardaker seems to be OK. I don't think I actually care.
The effect it has on RL discussion forums is oddly fascinating though. I'd like to pilot trial by RL discussion forum for criminal cases. Anyone want to give me some funding to do it?'"
You'd need to build a lot more jails.
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| That doesn't even prove it is the incident in question.
Chase made more than that one tackle in the game.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"I think it would have been harsh to blame Roby for not seeing it. We have stills and replays and people still think it ‘inconclusive’.'"
He was looking directly at it and bottled it ,too right he should be blamed its about time the officials were made to account for p!$$ performances across the board and Cummins should be sacked.
I've no problem with errors with when its blatant and ignored its not on and whilst there are no repurcusssions how are they expected to improve and pay better attention.
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| If Roby has seen it, and bottled it then yes he should be dealt with. But I think that would be a pretty harsh interpretation of the incident. I think Roby just didn’t have enough of a view to be sure as he would have needed to send Chase off and that would be a big decision in the context of the game.
I think the speed of the game and the rules of it make it pretty much impossible to referee on your own. I think it is imperative that we get the VR at every match ASAP (and accompanying camera angles) with the Ref being able to consult with him at any stage he wished. If that game is on Sky we have the facility and a trained and qualified person, for that incident to be dealt with immediately, yet it isn’t.
And yes, I agree with you about Cummings, the rules of the game don’t seem to help the referees referee the game.
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| Yet the other 2 officials at the weekend managed to see the incidents and send off the offenders. Roby didn't even give a penalty.
I have sympathy for refs, the game is very fast and you need 4 pairs of eyes to keep track of everything, but Roby was poor in that game, the Chase incident is just one example of him getting things wrong/not dealing with incidents properly.
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| Slightly off topic but after seeing the Fages hit on YouTube I think bousquet should get at least 5 games. Terrible hit.
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| Good old "tampon arm" Fozzard.
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| Quote ="MattyLeeds"Slightly off topic but after seeing the Fages hit on YouTube I think bousquet should get at least 5 games. Terrible tackle.'"
That could under no circumstances be described as a "tackle".
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| Quote ="DHM"That could under no circumstances be described as a "tackle".'"
Agreed
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| How can a Leeds fan complain about a comment by Fozzard, when your own player complained on his twitter page that Chase hit him with the elbow, then changing his comment saying it was not a elbow it was a shoulder.
After watching the DVD it looks like the contact is head to head, Chase is not off is feet, Hardacer, stumbles into the tackle.
We all know he will get a ban because if he doesn't it will make the people crying for blood on SKY look like total numptys.
How much coverage has there been about the Widnes player & Catalan player, a man stops breathing and it's all hush, hush, from Mr O'Conner.
The DVD shows nothing conclusive in the Chase tackle, but in RL that means nothing in a sport were the benefit of doughty always goes to the bigger teams.
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| Have you got the DVD, because if yours is the same as the one we have it shows nothing conclusive
Your own player has changed his comment about it
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| 2 match ban for the English halfback
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| You can all stop crying in you bear now you have got your cancellation prise
2 games and £300 congratulations but we will keep the two points
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| Quote ="frank5613" cancellation prise
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| It's a good job it's Rangi and not the club who have to pay the fine, I'm not sure they could afford it.
I'm sure some Cas fans will still be so deluded as to think Chase did nothing wrong.
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| Quote ="frank5613"You can all stop crying in you bear now you have got your cancellation prise
2 games and £300 congratulations but we will keep the two points'"
Oh dear.......or so you can understand.....oh deer
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| Quote ="cheekydiddles"Oh dear.......or so you can understand.....oh deer
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I'm still looking for my bear so I can have a good cry.
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| No complaints I don't think, Chase went for the big hit and made contact with the head. Without his previous record, he may have escaped a ban.
My only problem is that there does seem to have been an element of 'trial by media', coaches and players in partuicular need to be prevented from discussing incidents before a verdict is reached. Not much can be done to stop journalists commenting though.
And I don't think Hardaker did himself any favours by claiming Chase had led with the elbow, to then change his mind when the RFL charge was contact made by the shoulder.
It also shows the poor standard of refereeing in the game, Roby was stood in virtually the best position to see the incident but deceided there was no contact with the head, which has then been proven from a poor camera angle from some distance away! Perhaps he should get a ban too?
Anyway, we are without our star player for two games, but we are two points ahead of where I thought we would be!
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"No complaints I don't think, Chase went for the big hit and made contact with the head. Without his previous record, he may have escaped a ban.
My only problem is that there does seem to have been an element of 'trial by media', coaches and players in partuicular need to be prevented from discussing incidents before a verdict is reached. Not much can be done to stop journalists commenting though.
And I don't think Hardaker did himself any favours by claiming Chase had led with the elbow, to then change his mind when the RFL charge was contact made by the shoulder.
Anyway, we are without our star player for two games, but we are two points ahead of where I thought we would be!'"
We had the same thing regarding the Danny Mcguire ban last season, however in that case Wane publicly said Danny Mags should have been banned.
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| Quote ="MattyLeeds"We had the same thing regarding the Danny Mcguire ban last season, however in that case Wane publicly said Danny Mags should have been banned.'"
Perhaps Brian Mc should have known better then, and advised Hardaker accordingly!
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| Quote ="Him"It's a good job it's Rangi and not the club who have to pay the fine, I'm not sure they could afford it.
I'm sure some Cas fans will still be so deluded as to think Chase did nothing wrong.'"
Nice one mate knocking the club for being short of funds, it's a good job two Cas lads took your club over when you were so near going the way of the dodo
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| Speaking of clever tweets...
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