Season over now, best we can hope for is avoiding middle 8's and if we have another embedding home defeat to Cas next week middle 8's looks nailed on.

yes its done now. What a disaster its been since the word go so far. Mcdermott will do well to hang on to his job after this, im not saying i personally want rid but if there is a change coming soon anyway would probably be best to happen during this period to give a new coach chance to build for next year.

Me too it's the same story every week and same pre game talk, need to change asap and at least start to rebuild now for next year.

I know we have had key injuries, key players retire and move on etc but there has got to be something ammis in the Leeds dressing room. You could accept the position if the effort is being put in but a lot look non committed, unfit and for the most uninterested.
For me it's thanks for everything you've done Brian but time for a change

Think a lot of things have to be quetioned, like why did they rush back mcguire when its obviously put him out for longer?

Dont write it off, you could win the middle 8s your t with some improvement.

That Bradford game will be fun!

I would guess that was panic stations at how badly we were doing trying to rescue a season

Does anyone think with the money saved on open top buses Hel spend on recruitment?

Did they rush him back? They said from the beginning 6-8 weeks and it was the latter end of that timescale. His new injury was a different one anyway.

Also aren't those players who are out injured being slated by posters on here for not busting a gut to get fit and help out?

So which is it?
Rush back and it's reckless
Don't rush back and the players obviously don't care.

All over now.

Similar thing happened to.us when.we lost a few of our key players. They were not really replaced immediately and players who the club hoped would step up didn't quite make it. But smith seems to have completely changed things around with a few additions on and off the pitch.

Think it's a tad early to be calling for his head just yet.

See your point. Hardaker, stuck out on the wing and not taking kickoffs, was obviously not fit tonight.

What's happened to Falloon? Injured or have we just given up on him?

From the highs of 2015 to the lows of 2016....who would have thought it



At this rate the middle 8's will even be a struggle.

I always said from the begining that injuries will have a huge bearing on the season's winners and losers. If this facet continues we have no cause to be complacent (as some seem to be) on even staying in SL.
We could indeed be Bradford MK2.

What a depressing season. No sign of any recovery on leaking tries galore.

Just where ARE all these wounded?

Where is the next win coming from?

In the Middle 8's probably.

Hardaker was poor and as others said looked to have some injury. Not sure cuthbo was really right either.

Weren't there comments on here last week that with McGuire, Hardaker and Cuthbertson Leeds win that game (easily?), well with two thirds of those mentioned available again it appears Huddersfield won more comfortably.

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1996 was generally considered to be Leeds' worst of the SL Era but for how much longer? In 1996 Leeds reached a Challenge Cup Semi-Final (after overcoming two fellow SL opponents away from home) only to go out at the same venue as tonight.

1996 Opening 15 games (all comps) : Won 6, Drawn 0, Lost 9, Pts For 406, Pts Agst 464
Opening 13 Regular Rounds : Won 4, Drawn 0, Lost 9, Pts For 308, Pts Agst 380, (Avg Score 24 - 29)

2016 Opening 15 games (all comps) : Won 3, Drawn 0, Lost 12, Pts For 256, Pts Agst 402
Opening 13 Regular Rounds : Won 3, Drawn 0, Lost 10, Pts For 230, Pts Agst 328, (Avg Score 18 - 25)

Last week in the League game Phil Clarke remarked that it was good to see Leeds still trying to throw the ball around but a bit less of that is probably what Leeds need to be doing at present, complete some sets, kick and chase hard, build some pressure.

treble winners to rock bottom Season over first week in May. Disgrace. Something must change.

SL Grand Final - 8th October 2016 - Leeds' defence of their three trophies ended - 6th May 2016.

A season that will last 247 days is effectively over for the defending Champions in just 92 days. Let the apologists do what they do best but that record speaks for itself.

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH - Brian Mac to go NOW !!
We are clueless - no matter how many injuries - we have no game plan & no tactics - that is down to the coach.
We play a team 2 weeks running, who have the best kicker in the game on his day - & we never went near him. Nobody given the job to " knock him about " - all down to a clueless coach. They nearly decapitated our young full back - all we got was a penalty - sometimes you have to play ugly - you need some tactics.
Example 2 - any coach who picks a spineless/ useless & gutless forward like Aichurch does not have a brain.
Example 3 - our new planned move from a tap penalty - a centre takes it & runs sideways - another master stroke from our coach.
I could go on, but at a time , when the team needs structure, we have none.
Get rid now & start planning for next season , before all the decent players get signed up & we are left with the dregs - eg. our current hooker.

For all the Leeds glory supporters from outside the LS postcodes, feel free to return to your home town clubs, you will be made very welcome.

Will you all get a grip, it's one bad season. Even if you do finish in the middle eights do you seriously think you will go down. It will be a points fest for Leeds

You ought to try being a Wakey fan!

He's right. Get a grip. All the bleeding trophies we've won in recent times. Including THREE last year. And some of you are acting like spoilt brats.

Our team is sh-te this year. We all know that. But given all the recent success I think we can live with one dire season can't we? I'm sure we will be back contending next year.

Well said, at Hull we win one trophy a decade and that is when we are going well. I blame the millennials who only know about a winning Rhino's side.

I actually went into the season not expecting anything but we have exceeded my expectations. It's not really the results that's a worry it's the performances that are being put in that are a worry.