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| Ok, so considering the hype and hyperbole around Leigh being SL standard, seems like they couldn't beat an egg - and aren't.
I guess its OK to beat Batley and Hunslet, but when you get your ass handed on a plate by Salford and lose to Hull KR - its looks unlikely they will come up as they will lose to Widnes and very probably Wakey.
So Brierley. SL standard?
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| He was definitely SL standard yesterday, had an absolutely brilliant game. With a big forward moving pack in front of him, he could be really good.
Interesting, as seen comments that his half back partner was better, yet he was absolute gash yesterday.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Interesting, as seen comments that his half back partner was better, yet he was absolute gash yesterday.'"
Two very different players.
Ridyard is the Sinfield to Brierley's Danny McGuire. So while Brierley is off producing the handful of flashy moments that end up on the highlight reels, Ridyard is usually the one quietly taking the team around the park.
Given how badly dominated Leigh were up front - and their forward pack was frankly awful, seemingly more interested in starting fights than playing rugby - it made life much harder for Ridyard to do that as they were constantly coming off slow play the balls.
I'd still say he's the better all round player of the two, but the things Brierley can do that Ridyard can't make him the better acquisition for a SL side.
Still wouldn't rule them out of getting promoted. They're going to get 80 minutes, probably at Wakefield away in the play-off, and anything can happen. A refereeing decision or two go their way - and I didn't think many of those did yesterday - a bounce of the ball, injuries to key opposition players and I could still see them repeating their Challenge Cup victory from earlier in the year.
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| They have about as much chance of getting promoted as Keighley do.
What about Brierley AND Ridyard?
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| I'd still take Brierley lets be honest he'd be in a much better set up with much better players around him if we signed him.
I can honestly see a future "triangle" of Sutty Lilley and Brierley and i think potentially it could be very good for us.
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| Brierley is a decent runner and has done well at championship level. Would get found out in SL in my opinion and at his age, is there a massive amount of improvement in him?
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| Liam Finn has done quite well at Castleford despite joining them in his late 20s
from a championship club. Its not all about age and Brierely would be in a good set up at Leeds to compliment his skills.
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| Liam Finn is gash.
Who was the last championship half back to move to SL and really cut the mustard?
James Webster? Danny Brough? Richie Myler?
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| Tim Smith at Wakefield is a superb ball handler and puts runners thru gaps. Imagine Leeds forwards running off him ??
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| Quote ="cosworth"Tim Smith at Wakefield is a superb ball handler and puts runners thru gaps. Imagine Leeds forwards running off him ??'"
He would be found out massively at a big club, in big games. He goes missing, his kicking game is poor and his defence, at best, is mediocre.
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| Quote ="cosworth"Tim Smith at Wakefield is a superb ball handler and puts runners thru gaps. Imagine Leeds forwards running off him ??'"
Wasn't he at Wigan & shown the door?
So, no thanks.
Of the scrum halves at other clubs, Luke Gale would be the only one who would interest me.
He was unlucky to come through our academy when he did with Burrow & McGuire blocking his way.
Jordan Lilley - if he has the right stuff - should not suffer in a similar fashion.
For the first time in 10 or so years now is a great time to be coming through as a half-back, hooker in the academy or a prop even.
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| IMO we are not desperate for a half back.As has been said, the Sutcliffe/McGuire combo looked good early in the year and we always have Burrow for cover as well as the young lad Lilley.I wouldn't be against Brierley coming in mind, he looks good the few times i have seen him, and he would get better playing SL week in week out.
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| So if Leigh come up does Brierley stay with them?
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| He would certainly be a gamble. whilst I think he could do a reasonable job in SL, we need a half who can do more than just hold his own, we need someone who can come in and play at a title winning level and intensity from day one.
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| Quote ="rhino phil"He would certainly be a gamble. whilst I think he could do a reasonable job in SL, we need a half who can do more than just hold his own, we need someone who can come in and play at a title winning level and intensity from day one.'"
Not exactly a long list of those around though.
That's the problem, it's not like there is a few Sinfield-type players around the game.
Should accept we aren't going to find someone along those lines and find new strengths (the new props) and continue with our good work in the backs.
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| I would be happy for our club to take on a pacy half back and Brierley and Ryan Hampshire certainly tick that box
As neither would be on a massive contract if they joined then it's a worthwhile project unless the club has better options
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| As I've said before, all this "Brierley will sign for Leeds unless Leigh go up" is rubbish. You really thing a championship player can hold GH to ransom? That didn't even work for the likes of Calderwood who was a big deal before The Sleeve let him go
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| Quote ="Stevosfalseteeth"As I've said before, all this "Brierley will sign for Leeds unless Leigh go up" is rubbish. You really thing a championship player can hold GH to ransom? That didn't even work for the likes of Calderwood who was a big deal before The Sleeve let him go'"
I don't believe it either as the 'Million Pound Game' takes place the week before the GF. Strong chance Leigh are playing in that and can't see GH or Leeds waiting until the first week of October to know if they've got a new HB for next year.
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| Quote ="Stevosfalseteeth"As I've said before, all this "Brierley will sign for Leeds unless Leigh go up" is rubbish. You really thing a championship player can hold GH to ransom? That didn't even work for the likes of Calderwood who was a big deal before The Sleeve let him go'"
To be fair I don't think it has ever been suggested by the person that said it, that the condition of promotion is from Brierley. The suggestion is he has agreed to join,and is desperate to join.
The condition is by the Leigh club, as to whether they let him go.
I still don't think Leeds would do business that way. However, I also think they might have signed him.
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"Liam Finn is gash.
Who was the last championship half back to move to SL and really cut the mustard?
James Webster? Danny Brough? Richie Myler?'"
Richie Myler and Danny Brough have evidently done better than Liam Finn but that's not the case with James Webster.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"To be fair I don't think it has ever been suggested by the person that said it, that the condition of promotion is from Brierley. The suggestion is he has agreed to join,and is desperate to join.
The condition is by the Leigh club, as to whether they let him go.
I still don't think Leeds would do business that way. However, I also think they might have signed him.'"
I agree I think it's already a done deal, regardless of Leigh's fate.
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| Well it was heavily rumored, or should I say 'facted' by certain individuals on twitter, that if Leigh failed to win promotion then he was going to be at Leeds in 2016. I said at the time that that was the biggest load of nonsense I've heard in a long time. No way would GH sign a half back on the 50/50 terms of Leigh getting promoted by then the talent pool has well and truly been signed sealed and delivered. HOWEVER the longer Leeds go on without a half back replacement for Kev signed up the more likely that ridiculous bit of business is true...
If Brierley is Kevs replacement then I will be massively underwhelmed! McGuire will take Kevs reigns on the captaincy front, so technically speaking he is the replacement with Brierley taking the old Danny McGuires role of been the snappy elusive half back.
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| Unfortunately not, the only way Ryan will be a Leeds player next season is if Leigh don't get promoted.
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| Heard it from the horses mouth.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"Heard it from the horses mouth.'"
And what did the horse say? Done deal regardless or only if the Leythers don't get promotion?
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