Have given the Souths a better run than Saints tonight?

Souths were good yes, but Saints have looked average all over the park. Looked overawed by the occasion to be honest.

Puts into perspective how well we have done in these games down the years.Even the games we have lost we have got very close.

I'd hope we would. Saints have been woeful.

Saying that, South Sydney are bloody good.

Nah. Souths are a cut above any team in this country, and to be fair I think it's important to remember that they're a cut above most NRL teams too.

Fair point, i tend to agree.

Just feel Saints have been such a let down tonight after the other 2 game which were good to watch.

I feel we would have given them a good game but beaten in similar style to the Manly loss at Elland road in 2009(?)

I hope Saints fans realise now that beating them in Grand Finals is actually doing them a favour. It spares them this sort of humiliation.

Will any of them thank us for it?

Will they hell!!

I didn't think Saints would do much better than they did to be honest. If you look at their back line in particular every player in it is average and physically out of their depth.

The 2009 result I think is a good comparison. Would've been very tough to win but think we'd have been more respectable.

Souths looked very good, but luck does play a big part in games. The scoreline could have been hugely different with a bit of a shift in luck either way.

A record number a GF defeats
Biggest losing margin in a GF
The 2 biggest WCC defeats

The records just keep tumbling for the 'S'

Yep.Turner poop., Makinson overrated, Swift average and percivil needs to bulk up.Lomax is quality mind.

Saints need Walsh back asap

Hmmm, Lomax is alright, but nothing special, and he was very poor in tonights game.

I rate him but think Hardaker is better all round FB.would you take any of Wires, Wigan or Saints three quarter lines or half backs over ours on this weekends evidence?

I certainly wouldn't

Nah not one, maybe Sarginson for Moon but that's it.

Forgot about Sarginson.Good player, Would love to team him up with Hall on the 4 nations evidence

Yeah that's the only change I'd go for ATM.

Problem I have with this Saints side and knowing what level they're truely at is that they haven't been correctly tested. They limped towards the LLS thanks to Cas and Leeds messing up more than them and their playoff run was against two teams who look to have hit a brick wall in terms of fatigue in Cas and Catalans and then just managed to get past 12 over 78 mins.

We're still to find out just how good they truely are.

Wigan got beat by 20 last year, this year Saints 40. When we play the very best NRL teams we are found wanting.

We didn't do too badly against the great melbourne and Manly sides, a win and a reasonably close loss to both.

This Souths side are probably better than both of them though imo.Monster pack, smart halves and devastating three quarters.Glenn Stewart is a great replacement for Sam.

Good player, but I'll cut him a bit of slack. He's doing it tough at the moment, a lot on his mind.

Did he kill Lucy Beale???

The final score of the loss to Manly looked close (28-20) but we were 26-4 with 15 mins to go and then scored with the last play to get it up to 20. We were never really in that game.

We also beat Manly in 2012......in 2009 whilst they did win more comfortably than the final score suggested it was nowhere near the one sided ease that Souths had tonight.

Agree about the Manly game, although it also showed Leeds refused to accept a blow out in the scoreline. Souths are a very dificult side to contain, and are capable of blowing teams away. The fact that they could do that to one of the top SL sides when they are a few weeks off being fully match fit tells its own tale about the gap between SL and the NRL.

no you're right, 28-14 would have been about a fair reflection of that game and my point was we would have got as close in standard as we were that night about a couple of tries better than us.

We would have definitely given them a game. Saints we've pathetic last night. I expected nothing less though. How didn't Luke get MOM? He was ace.

Those comparing the weekends games to WCC games we had even 3 years ago are comparing apples and oranges to a certain extent. The gulf in the salary cap between the two competitions means that wheras a few years ago the nrl top sides could pick the best of the aus and new zealand talent, and a good share of the islanders too, it can now also add in pretty much all the top islanders talent, and a significant chunk of the top UK talent too.

When I saw that Wire hs been beaten by st george, I feared it would be a tough weekend for SL