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| Reported on Superleaguefans site that Wigan Warriors have issued S. Tomkins with a censure and fine for his actions at Wembley on Saturday. Apologies issued by club and player to Leeds club and it's supporters. Well lets hope that draws a line under his petulant actions and that it is a lesson learned.
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| Wigan will be hoping by doing this Tomkins will avoid a ban from the RFL ahead of the game against Warrington - hollow, the club should have banned him if they wanted to send out a message.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Wigan will be hoping by doing this Tomkins will avoid a ban from the RFL ahead of the game against Warrington - hollow, the club should have banned him if they wanted to send out a message.'"
Maybe, maybe not, but still it is good to see Wigan RLFC acknowledge the incident and be seen to take action against one of their own. As I said on another thread, I wouldnt want to see a witchunt against him for this, he has to take this as a lesson to learn, and let his rugby league do the talking in future.
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| Quote ="MossdaleRhino"Maybe, maybe not, but still it is good to see Wigan RLFC acknowledge the incident and be seen to take action against one of their own. As I said on another thread, I wouldnt want to see a witchunt against him for this, he has to take this as a lesson to learn, and let his rugby league do the talking in future.'"
After the BBC gave it such a broad audience on Saturday there was little else Wigan could have done - this is the very least they could have done - hollow gesture in my view.
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| The club have done the right thing there, and Wigan as a club tend to conduct themselves pretty well.
Sam Tomkins, not so much. I'd be surprised if he's even seen what the Press Officer has written for him.
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| This ain't over by a long way.
Tomkins will get booed in every game he plays in this year for club or country.
I'm not condoning the booing but it's sure to happen.
Leeds fans will get the blame though, regardless of opposition
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"After the BBC gave it such a broad audience on Saturday there was little else Wigan could have done - this is the very least they could have done - hollow gesture in my view.'"
So was Lee Smith fined and made to apologise last season?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"So was Lee Smith fined and made to apologise last season?'"
what for Rouges celebrating a match clinching try
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| Ban him for 100 games. Ruin his life.
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| Quote ="Sherbert Dip"This ain't over by a long way.
Tomkins will get booed in every game he plays in this year for club or country.
I'm not condoning the booing but it's sure to happen.
Leeds fans will get the blame though, regardless of opposition
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Sadly I'm afraid he will. And as for the Leeds fans bit, I didnt like the inference that this was anything to do with the booing that happened in the Exiles game, as written in this mornings League Express. The booing happened at Headingley, but there is no evidence to suggest that Leeds fans alone were responsible. I'm surprised we havent heard a response from GH already!
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Wigan will be hoping by doing this Tomkins will avoid a ban from the RFL ahead of the game against Warrington - hollow, the club should have banned him if they wanted to send out a message.'"
Why would he be banned, seeing this type of thing has happened numerous times without a ban being given?
I know this may be incredibly difficult for some but they need to look beyond the fact it was Sam Tomkins and move on.
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| Idiotic and immature.
Same goes for Piggy.
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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"Why would he be banned, seeing this type of thing has happened numerous times without a ban being given?'"
Saints banned Kyle Eastmond for doing the same thing to his own fans. So much more should it have been a ban for a player doing it to opposition fans on TV in front of potentially millions of viewers.
Cop out by Wigan; just damage limitation in the hope that no ban will be issued by the RFL. Still think it should though because the ruling body cannot be seen to be soft.
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| BOOOOOOOOOO ! ! !
I hope he gets a career-ending ban
I wonder how big the fine is , and if it will actually come out of his pocket .
As regards the booing at Headingley ..
He was booed in Leeds , so it was all of the Leeds fans that were booing him .
Can we expand that and say that he was booed in Yorkshire , therefore it was all of the Yorkshire fans that were booing him ?
Can we expand that a bit more ..I am sure you can see a pattern forming here .
Ooooo ! Poor precious little Sam .
To be honest , I think he dserves another chance . I will give him that chance if he walks to the Leeds fans next time we play them and apologises .
T&Cs of an acceptable apology are as follows :
He must kiss the badge on TMFMISL's shirt .
He must get down on his knees and beg us to forgive him .
He must serve cake to any fat lads in the crowd .
He must give Damo a job as his PA .
Then we can give him one final boo as he gets back to his feet .
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Saints banned Kyle Eastmond for doing the same thing to his own fans. So much more should it have been a ban for a player doing it to opposition fans on TV in front of potentially millions of viewers.
Cop out by Wigan; just damage limitation in the hope that no ban will be issued by the RFL. Still think it should though because the ruling body cannot be seen to be soft.'"
Well seeing Briers did it to the Southstand during a live game and nothing happened and Myler did it to Wigan fans last season also during a live game and got a "naughty boy don't do it again" letter, as per usual you're talking poop.
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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"Why would he be banned, seeing this type of thing has happened numerous times without a ban being given?
I know this may be incredibly difficult for some but they need to look beyond the fact it was Sam Tomkins and move on.'"
I think the fact it is ST makes all the difference, the fact that he is supposed to be one of the games shining stars and is therefore at the forefront of press scrutiny, maybe he should be setting an example to kids who want to play the game with the same skill set he does rather than been the petulent annoying he seems to enjoy been.
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| Quote ="Austin 3:16"I think the fact it is ST makes all the difference, the fact that he is supposed to be one of the games shining stars and is therefore at the forefront of press scrutiny, maybe he should be setting an example to kids who want to play the game with the same skill set he does rather than been the petulent annoying lover he seems to enjoy been.'"
In terms of being treated by the authorities it shouldn't, which is why nothing more than a naughty boy letter will be forthcoming.
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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"In terms of being treated by the authorities it shouldn't, which is why nothing more than a naughty boy letter will be forthcoming.'"
So you don't think the RFL should be setting a marker down here then?
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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"Well seeing Briers did it to the Southstand during a live game and nothing happened and Myler did it to Wigan fans last season also during a live game and got a "naughty boy don't do it again" letter, as per usual you're talking poop.'"
I don't care what you think about me or what other players have done at other times. My club issued a suspension to our player who did what your player did and so I'm coming from that POV as that was the best action. Since he returned from his suspension things have got better and better for Kyle and between the fans and Kyle. The suspension showed the fans that the club meant business. The so-called apology given by Kyle was believed by precisely nobody. I suggest that the so-called apology given by Tomkins will be believed by precisely nobody outside Wigan either.
The so-called apology and the so-called fine is a fudge and it won't work because nobody is naive enough to believe in any of it. A suspension would have given a clear signal to those outside the club that he was being duly reprimanded for behaviour which brought the sport into disrepute and then relationships could have been rebuilt after that.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"I don't care what you think about me or what other players have done at other times. My club issued a suspension to our player who did what your player did and so I'm coming from that POV as that was the best action. Since he returned from his suspension things have got better and better for Kyle and between the fans and Kyle. The suspension showed the fans that the club meant business. The so-called apology given by Kyle was believed by precisely nobody. I suggest that the so-called apology given by Tomkins will be believed by precisely nobody outside Wigan either.
The so-called apology and the so-called fine is a fudge and it won't work because nobody is naive enough to believe in any of it. A suspension would have given a clear signal to those outside the club that he was being duly reprimanded for behaviour which brought the sport into disrepute and then relationships could have been rebuilt after that.'"
Eastmond did it to his own fans! Saints had no choice but to ban him just to please the supporters. He probably would've been hounded out of the club if not.
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| Quote ="Austin 3:16"So you don't think the RFL should be setting a marker down here then?'"
As they haven't previously for the same thing, no. Then it simply becomes a ban for being Sam Tomkins, which I know would be welcomed by some, but fortunately not everyone is a knuckle dragging t, although I appreciate we are talking about the RFL here.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"I don't care what you think about me or what other players have done at other times. My club issued a suspension to our player who did what your player did and so I'm coming from that POV as that was the best action. Since he returned from his suspension things have got better and better for Kyle and between the fans and Kyle. The suspension showed the fans that the club meant business. The so-called apology given by Kyle was believed by precisely nobody. I suggest that the so-called apology given by Tomkins will be believed by precisely nobody outside Wigan either.
The so-called apology and the so-called fine is a fudge and it won't work because nobody is naive enough to believe in any of it. A suspension would have given a clear signal to those outside the club that he was being duly reprimanded for behaviour which brought the sport into disrepute and then relationships could have been rebuilt after that.'"
Others have done it and not been banned by the RFL - get over yourself. As already been pointed out Stains had to do something as Eastmond did it to his own fans, there's no way he would have been banned by the club if he wasn't already leaving for RU. King did the same to Dire fans and apologised, without being banned.
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| Quote ="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"Well seeing Briers did it to the Southstand during a live game and nothing happened.'"
That was only one finger so it was only half as bad, right?
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| Quote ="craigizzard"That was only one finger so it was only half as bad, right?'"
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