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| [url=http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/rugby-league-headlines/Leeds-Rhinos-Ablett-signs-new.5437753.jpYEP Story[/url
Good news, has been really solid in the SR this year.
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| overall a steady player - strange how he is always just given 1 year deals each year
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| Good news IMO. I like the guy
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| Quote ="Sallystar"overall a steady player - strange how he is always just given 1 year deals each year'"
Tony Smith used that tactic. Keep them on their toes. Playing for a new contract every year pretty much
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| Like Kirke he is a solid squad member and puts in a good shift every time he's on the park. A year deal is a bit strange, like to know what GH is thinking re 2011.
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| IMO unless you've got players who are going to be coveted by other clubs and who are going to hurt you massively if they go somewhere else, a year or two at the most is about right.
Only a club's "crown jewels", e.g. McGuire, Burrow, Sinfield should be tied to long term deals.
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| Quote ="Rhino Bucs"Like Kirke he is a solid squad member and puts in a good shift every time he's on the park. A year deal is a bit strange, like to know what GH is thinking re 2011.'"
Good news but yes, 1yr deal is a bit strainge. Can't work that one out at all
Especially given he's only 23...i'd have thought they'd have tied him down to a longer deal.. could be another one we are to lose..in the next 2 seasons.. expect him at the bulls or warrington in 2011 season...
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"IMO unless you've got players who are going to be coveted by other clubs and who are going to hurt you massively if they go somewhere else, a year or two at the most is about right.
Only a club's "crown jewels", e.g. McGuire, Burrow, Sinfield should be tied to long term deals.'"
Are the non 'jewels' not usually signed for 2 years though Andy? as i said above especially as he's only 23 and English and a good player The 'jewels' are normally 3 years or more...
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| Good news. Good out and out player is Ablett.
Just Worrall and Gibson out of contract left now.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"IMO unless you've got players who are going to be coveted by other clubs and who are going to hurt you massively if they go somewhere else, a year or two at the most is about right.
Only a club's "crown jewels", e.g. McGuire, Burrow, Sinfield should be tied to long term deals.'"
I agree. And down the road at Bradfor they have just done the same with Paul Sykes.
Although on this basis I cant get my head around Kirke getting a two year deal.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"I agree. And down the road at Bradfor they have just done the same with Paul Sykes.
Although on this basis I cant get my head around Kirke getting a two year deal.'"
Exactly... why have they done that ? strange....
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| Quote ="rpw"Exactly... why have they done that ? strange....'" Maybe because kirke IS a few years older and he wanted something a bit more secure?
Very good news on ablett IMO
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| Ablett being 'age free' to move on (without compensation to Leeds) at the end of next season leaves him and his agent with the best earliest opportunity to do so I'd have thought.
I'd be surprised if his next deal is only for a year though.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"Maybe because kirke IS a few years older and he wanted something a bit more secure?'"
To be honest I doubt that was the case. Contracts shouldn't be dictated by a players security. It should be dictated by the needs of the club.
They could have given him reduced terms for the 2nd year though.
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| Quote ="Blue 'n Amber"To be honest I doubt that was the case. Contracts shouldn't be dictated by a players security. It should be dictated by the needs of the club.
They could have given him reduced terms for the 2nd year though.'" they should if your the player!! Players arnt totally powerless in contract talks!
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| I personally don't mind giving players these one year deals.
Ablett probably isn't on great money, he's a versatlie squad player and the one year contract keeps him on his toes to try and earn another.
Not a bad deal really.
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| I suspect the player got the deal he and his agent were looking for in this instance. Although when Hetherington doesn't get his way players tend to move on so perhaps the deal was what everyone wanted all round.
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| Quote ="tvoc"I suspect the player got the deal he and his agent were looking for in this instance. Although when Hetherington doesn't get his way players tend to move on so perhaps the deal was what everyone wanted all round.'"
I think that's the key element tvoc,GH is very shrewd in the contract renewal department and i'm sure HE gave ablett the contract he wanted him to have!
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| Quote ="rhinoms"I think that's the key element tvoc,GH is very shrewd in the contract renewal department and i'm sure HE gave ablett the contract he wanted him to have!'"
A bit of both I suspect - Leeds will not be the only club interested in Carl's services - as mentioned before the next one will be either a long term contract or a move.
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| Not a big fan of the guy personally so I will be interested to see how he goes.
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| with the salary cap in place every club needs the abletts of this world, getting more game time than he warrants due to lack of centre / 2nd row but won't be on mega bucks.
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| Some people are grossly under-estimating how important to the team Ablett has become recently.
He's glue and his 15-20 carries and 30 tackles a game are crucial to what we do, albeit not as eye catching as what others do.
I'd have preferred we signed him longer term as TVOC and Serge say he will be in a great bargaining position at the end of his next deal.
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| Quote ="G1"Some people are grossly under-estimating how important to the team Ablett has become recently.
He's glue and his 15-20 carries and 30 tackles a game are crucial to what we do, albeit not as eye catching as what others do.
I'd have preferred we signed him longer term as TVOC and Serge say he will be in a great bargaining position at the end of his next deal.'"
Thats what i can't understand, he is a developing player, maybe this contract is more on abletts terms than appears?
why sign for 3 more years as one of the lower earners, give it a year see what happens.
wigan would not have looked at calderwood or wasps at smith a year before they eventually did. (not on the salaries they ended up with)
not his biggest fan but i wasn't JJB's, but he made the step up. Don't mind being proved wrong in cases like this.
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| I like Ablett as a player. He's a mobile second row who IMO could develop into a very good one.
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| What has Carl Ablett done that no other Leeds player has done this season?
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