Appaling again tonight, with a decent team out on the park too. Mcdermott needs to start earning his money. It's the coaches fault we look clueless in attack. Our last tackle options are embarrassing. Has he finally been found out? How much longer should we put up with these abject displays?

I cannot blame the coach totally we have some poor players at the moment as well it's them on the pitch constantly week in week out making a hash of it

our last tackle options have always been pretty poor but now without sinfield its even worse and more obvious because at least he provided some nice cross field kicks. Again tonight its either Hardaker dying with the ball or Cuthbertson, afront rower for fecks sake getting the ball. No excuses tonight we should be blowing the likes of a busted Cas away with the team we had on the park.

Found out.

He's not got Sinfield to dig him out of a hole any more, and persists in picking Burrow in the halves who just kills every single play he touches the ball by crabbing into other people's space.

Becoming clearer that what Leeds achieved was off the back of some talented players playing what was in front of them, rather than anything the coach did or said.

Again I would agree with burrow but it's getting on my wick sutty seems to get given a lot of slack for constantly crap performances

In defence of Sutcliffe, it must be a nightmare playing next to Burrow.Im sorry, but the little fella is nothing more than an impact hooker sub these days, he just gets in the way at halg back and we look incredibly stretched with him defending on the fringes at times.

I could understand it more if he was trying and making mistakes but he isn't, he is hiding and not demanding and taking on these last tackle plays.

He needs to find his voice, but he's getting zero good ball in attacking positions. It's dying either with Burrow crabbing then dropping a forward back inside or Hardaker trying to do it all on his own. There were times last night when he was screaming for the ball but it continually went the other way.

Unbelievable Jeff!! After all the success he needs to "start" earning his money?

Sutcliffe is e, and that would be the case in the halfs or loose forward, he doesn't have the ability.

Don't think he will be anything other than average in the halfs

still too early to be writing him off imo. i would like to see him with Mcguire for a season first, hes still a kid coming back from a bad injury.Granted he is poor at the minute and shouldn't escape criticism.

Not having a dig here but for McDermott to come out and start blaming the ref is poor,it doesn't matter what the ref does it's still down to the team to get the result, it's swings and roundabouts with the refs you just have to play through it.

Sutty is not a super league quality half back end of.Like others have said he goes missing too often,and his defence is not up to scratch,but there again you could level that accusation at a few tonight.Very disappointing performance!

I would agree it want the refs fault. He was poor but both ways. But he isn't the first coach to criticise a re

I don't know about everybody else, but I always think that it reflects badly when a coach, or for that matter players and fans, blame the Ref. Always smacks of deflection. Maybe McD is feeling the pressure from this poor start to the season.

As others have said last tackle options tonight were hopeless. One crossfield kick from burrow was flat straight to cas winger behind line. Hardaker was a headless chicken - grubbers with nobody follwing up. Sutcliffe in 2nd half agiain dummies right, gets tackled does not even know it is last tackle. Coach has to take blame because they pass down line and panic with no set idea of what to do. When your best footballer is at prop you are in bother. Eaton could kick, would have thought he should be taking them and doing some work.

Would like to see penalty count in 2nd half. It felt like child murdered us. The one where ablett got done when with ball near there line was madness.

Child was his usual complete lottery self. To blame the fer when you know how unpredictable he is just smacks of desperation.

Mac does not often blame the ref and we know Leeds can not cope when Child is in charge , he seems to get a kick out of Leeds getting beat , but lets not lose sight of the fact that game was there for the taking and the coach and players were the main culprits in our loss

2nd half I had penalty count ending at 5 each (9 each overall) - sequence to:L,C,C,L,L,C,C,L/C,L,C,C,C,C,L,L,L,L

McDermott spoke of the early Cas tries then all their other tries when they only scored the three in total. Probably felt like more with Cas having at least two efforts ruled out.

Think I had given in by time he gave us that late run. We were useless then with 2 mins to go. More panic in their 20

Too right!

The reason why we are all so angry/pi$$ed off/upset as this was the one major chance to get a shocking season (so far) on track!

The flip side is a loss would totally f*cking derail our season!

And here we are.

Our biggest game for many many years and we totally blew it.

We could have won it but failed.

How the he'll was an early season game at Vas "our biggest game in many, many years"? We're not playing well, but come off it.

Agree we blew it sarge but not sure biggest game in years. Biggest game this week. It will keep the carpet carriers happy for a few months