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| HARDAKER
B.J.B
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MOON
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SINFIELD
BURROW
LEULAI
AITON
PEACOCK
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ABLETT
DELANEY
SUTCLIFFE
KIRKE
BAILEY
SINGLETON ?
GOT A FEELING I HAVE FORGOTTEN A FORWARD
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| Quote ="ploinerrhino"HARDAKER
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SINFIELD
BURROW
LEULAI
AITON
PEACOCK
J.J.B
ABLETT
DELANEY
SUTCLIFFE
KIRKE
BAILEY
SINGLETON ?
GOT A FEELING I HAVE FORGOTTEN A FORWARD'"
YOU DID, IAN SCOTT.
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| WHY ARE WE SHOUTING?
HAVE I WANDERED ONTO A BARRY SCOTT PROMO?
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| Achurch for JJB who drops to the bench for Kirke possibly?
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| The end of McGuire - Interesting!
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| Quote ="ploinerrhino"HARDAKER
B.J.B
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MOON
HALL
SINFIELD
BURROW
LEULAI
AITON
PEACOCK
J.J.B
ABLETT
DELANEY
SUTCLIFFE
KIRKE
BAILEY
SINGLETON ?
GOT A FEELING I HAVE FORGOTTEN A FORWARD'"
Three props on the bench is wrong. Drop Kirke for a backrower Achurch/Walters. Would put R.Ward on the bench too as would rather just have an out and out hooker on the bench instead of messing with the halves.
Debatable as to whether you can put JJB in the starting 13 too given he's hardly played in 12 months. Agree with Delaney at loose instead of 2nd row, get him away from the edges. Briscoe might be fine once he gets dropped for a game or two to shake him up.
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| keep hoping Danny will bounce back but sad to say i dont think he will , i hope he proves me wrong as my favourite player since he burst on the scene at Mcalpine . Did forget Achurch i will put him on bench instead of Singleton
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| Quote ="ploinerrhino"HARDAKER
B.J.B
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MOON
HALL
SINFIELD
BURROW
LEULAI
AITON
PEACOCK
J.J.B
ABLETT
DELANEY
SUTCLIFFE
KIRKE
BAILEY
SINGLETON ?
GOT A FEELING I HAVE FORGOTTEN A FORWARD'"
two actually.... (Kirke isn't one)
Silly thread really...So if all fit but horribly out of form? Same team?
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| ironic you thinking its a silly thread nantwitch
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| Quote ="ploinerrhino"ironic you thinking its a silly thread nantwitch'"
Kirke for captain! Wouldn't that be great for some enterprising sporting headlines.
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| Speaking of fitness.
Moon jammed his shoulder early on in the game and was eventually taken off. No news yet on whether he'll miss any games.
Sinfield put his hand up to play but McDermott said no as it's not worth the risk....see people, he's learning, (apparently didn't even attempt goal kicking in training).
Sinfield, Burrow, Clarkson, Leuluai and JJB all have a "chance" for next week (although Sinfield as mentioned above doesn't sound too clever at the moment). Ablett is probably going to be 2 weeks. No mention of Achurch and Hardaker has once more match to go (thank god!)
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| If Sinfield is still out we've got to figure out who's going to kick the goals. I know he's 4th choice but Sutcliffe looks a terrible goalkicker.
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| Quote ="craigizzard"If Sinfield is still out we've got to figure out who's going to kick the goals. I know he's 4th choice but Sutcliffe looks a terrible goalkicker.'"
TBF I thought against Catalans he did ok, granted he missed 3 from the touchline but he gave them a good chance. Tonight though they were some terrible attempts. Would imagine that Hardaker/Burrow will take over when they return, which will definitely be the Cas game for Hardaker, possibly HKR for Burrow. May have to stick with Sutcliffe for one more match.
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| It's a good job Sutcliffe practiced more kicking this week otherwise he may have missed all 3 pots at goal.
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| When all fit:
1. Zak Hardaker
2. Tom Briscoe
3. Kallum Watkins
4. Joel Moon
5. Ryan Hall
6. Kevin Sinfield
7. Liam Sutcliffe
8. Kylie Leuluai
9. Paul Aiton
10. Jamie Peacock
11. Mitch Achurch
12. Carl Ablett
13. Brett Delaney
14. Rob Burrow
15. Brad Singleton
16. Ryan Bailey
17. Josh Walters
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| Amazing you say the Coach is "Learning" re-Injured player Printer yet last week it was clear from around 15 minutes in Ablett wasn't right which has since proved costly!
As for a fully fit squad my 17 would be.
Hardaker
Briscoe(Handley if off form)
Watkins
Moon
Hall
Sinfield
Burrow
JP
Aiton
Singleton
Achurch
Ablett
Delaney
R.Ward
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| Quote ="rhinoms"Amazing you say the Coach is "Learning" re-Injured player Printer yet last week it was clear from around 15 minutes in Ablett wasn't right which has since proved costly!'"
Obvious difference between not selecting Sinfield (or Leuluai) for the match having had all week to assess their fitness compared to a player picking up a knock mid-match and not truly knowing the extent of the damage......most players will say they're fine to continue and it wasn't like Ablett was a passenger ala JJB & Watkins at Wigan last year, he came up with that key score.
As for proving costly are you telling us that Ablett would've been fine to play at Wakey if he'd have come off straight away vs Catalans or are you simply guessing to have a go at McDermott?
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| Guessing?
I'm saying it was obvious he was injured early and carried that knock till the last few minutes are you saying he was right to keep an injured player on the park now?
Also given Jjb's injury at ST's I don't think it's out of line to suggest he does not handle injuries well as a Coach.
We will never know if subbing Ablett would have made him available last night or not but the evidence is clear that he was carrying a heavy shoulder problem early and was not subbed which has lead to him being on the side lines.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Obvious difference between not selecting Sinfield (or Leuluai) for the match having had all week to assess their fitness compared to a player picking up a knock mid-match and not truly knowing the extent of the damage'"
Both were named in the 19. Sinfield was named in the team one hour before kick off.
I actually don't disagree with you on the learning,but think you have your point wrong above.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"We will never know if subbing Ablett would have made him available last night or not'"
I suppose none of will know that......
Quote ="rhinoms"but the evidence is clear that he was carrying a heavy shoulder problem early and was not subbed which has lead to him being on the side lines.'"
Oh wait, you apparently do know that not subbing him is the reason he's on the sidelines.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Both were named in the 19. Sinfield was named in the team one hour before kick off.
I actually don't disagree with you on the learning,but think you have your point wrong above.'"
Yeah nothing wrong with giving them until the 11th hour, all coaches talk about giving guys until the "11th hour" to see if they're ok. Given that Mulhern was drafted in to the 17 even though he wasn't in the 19 compared to Luke Briscoe shows he knew the chances of both not making it in advance.
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| McDermott said Moon jarred his shoulder early in the first half but he is a tough bloke and stayed on.
Apologies but I thought the coach is responsible for team selection not the players.
He also said something along the lines that implied Wakefield had a top pack of forwards and we did well to match them.
With all due respect to Wakefield they too had players missing but a Leeds team who could have gone top yesterday should be smashing that team off the park.
Well done Wakefield you found a way to win.
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| Back to the OP:
Back line picks itself
Half-backs, Sinfield and Burrow
Forwards: Peacock, Aiton, Leuluai, Delaney, Achurch, Ablett
Bench: Singleton, R Ward, S Ward, Minchella
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"I suppose none of will know that......
Oh wait, you apparently do know that not subbing him is the reason he's on the sidelines.'"
I know he was injured early on left on the pitch for 99% of the rest of the game and now he missed the Wakey match what's not to understand?
Given this Coaches previous and how you said he had "learnt" I'm saying that example shows otherwise, there's being tough etc but then there's poor man management and this Coach has plenty of past examples of that where injuries are concerned.
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