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| [urlhttp://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/rugby-league-five-giants-dream-team-132544240--spt.html[/url
Full-back: Sam Tomkins (Wigan), Wing: Josh Charnley (Wigan), Centre: Leroy Cudjoe (Huddersfield), Centre: Ben Crooks (Hull), Wing: Tom Lineham (Hull), Stand-off: Danny Brough (Huddersfield), Scrum-half: Matty Smith (Wigan), Prop: Jamie Peacock (Leeds), Hooker: Shaun Lunt (Huddersfield), Prop: Eorl Crabtree (Huddersfield), Second row: Brett Ferres (Huddersfield), Second row: Danny Kirmond (Wakefield), Loose forward: Sean O'Loughlin (Wigan).
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| Ryan Hall has had a superb season and is very unlucky though it's hard to argue against Charnley and Lineham. That said, I wouldn't swap him for either of them.
I thought Tomkins might have gotten in on reputation more than form looking at the last few months and the games he has missed.
How on earth is young Crooks in there ahead of Watkins?
Is Matty Smith really the best 7 in the comp? If so, we have real problems.
However, most of the rest are pretty spot on.
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| Can't argue with the pack on the season's form, a few debatable ones in the backs.
Watkins and Moon would both be ahead of Crooks for me.
Lineham has had a good season but has it been as good as Joel Monaghan's or Ryan Hall's? Hall has maybe been a bit up-and-down compared to previous seasons, but even so.
Has Matty Smith been as good as Michael Dobson?
Not sure whether Dream Team is voted for by the players or the press. If the latter it looks like they've engineered the ready-written story of no overseas players for the first time.
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| Quote ="craigizzard"
Lineham has had a good season but has it been as good as Joel Monaghan's '"
No it hasn't
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| How many games has Tomkins played in the League this season?
Agree with G1, definitely in on reputation
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| Ben Crooks' tries have caught the eye. That usually counts for something. Great prospect for the future. As is Lineham. Both should be in contention for the world cup squad, though neither would make my match day team just yet.
Smith ahead of Dobson is the one call I find truly mystifying. We are horribly short of top class 7's aren't we?
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| Quote ="craigizzard" it looks like they've engineered the ready-written story of no overseas players for the first time.'"
That wouldn't surprise me really, especially in world cup year.
Only surprises for me are no Dobson and Watkins
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| Good motivation for the Leeds team ahead of the play-offs. Thank you gentlemen of the media.
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| You can tell it's a World Cup year.
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| The Worlds best winger and the worlds best player don`t even get into the SL dream team?
I agree Monaghan for Lineham, Dobson for Smith and possibly Watkins for Crooks.
Well done JP though MOS for me.
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| There is a paragraph in Tomkins Sky contract, that he must be included in the Dream Team every year.
Fact
The Super League Dream Team is very much like the League Leaders Shield...nobody really cares who wins.
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| Quote ="Sherbert Dip"There is a paragraph in Tomkins Sky contract, that he must be included in the Dream Team every year.
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You just made @RLMeltdown
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| I always take the dream team with a pinch of salt anyway.
I'm sure that Kirke and Bailey will consider themselves unfortunate not to have been selected.
<lights touch paper sits back and waits for another Southstander thread to become a debate on the merits of Ian Kirke and Ryan Bailey >
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| Quote ="Fetlar"Good motivation for the Leeds team ahead of the play-offs. Thank you gentlemen of the media.'"
And the team that finished second by a point dont have a single player in the team .
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| Quote ="Buck Tarbrush"And the team that finished second by a point dont have a single player in the team .
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But they're so old they'll have forgotten all about it in a few minutes...
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| Quote ="Sherbert Dip"There is a paragraph in Tomkins Sky contract, that he must be included in the Dream Team every year.'"
IIRC, Sam Tomkins has now equaled the record for consecutive selections - which currently stands at five. Jason Robinson (1996 - 2000) and Kris Radlinski (1998 - 2002) being the other members of the select club. The only current player with a possibility of joining them next season will be another Wiganer - Sean O'Loughlin.
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| No Joe Vickery???
And that has to be the worst Dream Team kit ever.
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| I think it's a fair selection.
Tomkins is one of the top 5 try scoreres in the league, despite missing quite a few games. I can't think of any other fullbacks who have been better than him across the whole season.
No one from warrington has especially stood out for me except westwood and higham. Ditto leeds except peacock. Of course many huddersfield players have performed at a consistently high level so i think those selection are warranted.
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| Quote ="G1"Ryan Hall has had a superb season and is very unlucky though it's hard to argue against Charnley and Lineham. That said, I wouldn't swap him for either of them.
I thought Tomkins might have gotten in on reputation more than form looking at the last few months and the games he has missed.
How on earth is young Crooks in there ahead of Watkins?
Is Matty Smith really the best 7 in the comp? If so, we have real problems.
However, most of the rest are pretty spot on.'"
With these type of things a winger will nearly always be judged on the number of tries or scoring eye catching tries.
Lineham has produced some eye catching performances, he's a new talent whereas hall has been around so i think they just looked on him favourably. Not saying this is right, it's just the way it is.
With crooks, again he notched up a couple of hatricks on sky, he's a new talent, and people immediatly think 'this kids special' and he sticks in their mind when selecting this. Ian thornley is probably as worthy selection as crooks He's produced some consistent displays for wigan this year despite not being a name player. Watkins has had 2 spells on the sidelines but has been very good across the season.
I don't agree with any of the above, it's just what i think is the logic behind the decisions.
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"With these type of things a winger will nearly always be judged on the number of tries or scoring eye catching tries.
Lineham has produced some eye catching performances, he's a new talent whereas hall has been around so i think they just looked on him favourably. Not saying this is right, it's just the way it is.
With crooks, again he notched up a couple of hatricks on sky, he's a new talent, and people immediatly think 'this kids special' and he sticks in their mind when selecting this. Ian thornley is probably as worthy selection as crooks
He's produced some consistent displays for wigan this year despite not being a name player. Watkins has had 2 spells on the sidelines but has been very good across the season.
I don't agree with any of the above, it's just what i think is the logic behind the decisions.'"
From what I can recall, people in previous Dream Teams hang around.
Apart from Kevin Penny.
And possibly Chris 'One Season' Hill.
(on this actual Dream Team, I'd fancy Leeds' Best 13 against this lot......with JP playing for both!)
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"From what I can recall, people in previous Dream Teams hang around.
Apart from Kevin Penny.
And possibly Chris 'One Season' Hill.
(on this actual Dream Team, I'd fancy Leeds' Best 13 against this lot......with JP playing for both!)'"
Chris Hill's been excellent the 5 or 6 times I've seen him play this year.
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| Jamie Thackery made the 2005 team!
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| Chris Hill is excellent every single week. (probably cursed him for Saturday now).
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"From what I can recall, people in previous Dream Teams hang around.
Apart from Kevin Penny.
And possibly Chris 'One Season' Hill.
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Then I guess you'd be surprised to learn that approximately two-thirds of the 135/136 (the danger of collating these things after the event) have thus far found themselves in the 'one dream team selection' category. Of course that could alter a little if any of this year's nine debutants can find some sticking power but the past selections are littered with those unable to.
I'd list them if I were 100% confident on the eighteen dream-teams (perhaps A-Fire-Inside could assist) but I'm not at this point so I won't.
Suffice to drop a few one season wonder names in: Brian McDermott (1999?) , Brian Carney, Chris Joynt, Danny Orr, David Solomona, Henry Paul (and brother Robbie never made it), Terry Newton, Leon Pryce and Leeds' own contributions Mark Calderwood, Brad Godden, Tonie Carroll, Marcus Bai and Matt Diskin.
(By the way it appears the most represented club would be Wigan followed by fresh air then St Helens and Leeds followed by more fresh air then Bradford, Warrington and Hull. Gateshead got two players in during their sole SL season and perhaps the club recording the biggest fail so far is Widnes who have yet to get any player in from their six seasons in the top flight - although I'll repeat my lists are unconfirmed.)
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