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| Watched the game back and was surprised to hear the Sky team start banging the drum for Ryan Halls inclusion on the wing for England. I can see why though as IMO he is the best all round winger in SL this season and made the last England winger (Calderwood) look like a tool last night on more than 1 occasion, but what so you think? Is it too early yet? Or are we that short on top Wingers that he is just in the right place at the right time?
What I do like about him is that he always seems to break the tackle and adds a lot of go forward coming off the line which, lets face it, Calderwood never did that. He has also developed his speed now in although not the quickest, isnt too far behing. He's also a unit. Manu Vatuvei watch out ay
Anyway all I can say is that I have been very critical of him over the last 3 or 4 years and i am glad he has proven me wrong.
Keep it up Ryan
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| He's growing and learning both physically and mentally. Still nowhere near the finished article IMO, but the positive signs are there. His game awareness is improving too - it would have been all too easy on the try that got disallowed last night to look for the corner himself rather than have the skills to adjust his body and deliver the inside ball on the run at full pace.
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| Quote ="Hollywood Harrigan"Watched the game back and was surprised to hear the Sky team start banging the drum for Ryan Halls inclusion on the wing for England. I can see why though as IMO he is the best all round winger in SL this season and made the last England winger (Calderwood) look like a tool last night on more than 1 occasion, but what so you think? Is it too early yet? Or are we that short on top Wingers that he is just in the right place at the right time?
What I do like about him is that he always seems to break the tackle and adds a lot of go forward coming off the line which, lets face it, Calderwood never did that. He has also developed his speed now in although not the quickest, isnt too far behing. He's also a unit. Manu Vatuvei watch out ay
Anyway all I can say is that I have been very critical of him over the last 3 or 4 years and i am glad he has proven me wrong.
Keep it up Ryan'"
Putting up a good fight with Mr Ainscough at the moment for it, but imo I think that it will happen soon. Really good player is Ryan, and think that in time could be one of the best wingers in SL.. that is if he hasnt moved into the pack by then.
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| Quote ="Frosties."Putting up a good fight with Mr Ainscough at the moment for it, but imo I think that it will happen soon. Really good player is Ryan, and think that in time could be one of the best wingers in SL.. that is if he hasnt moved into the pack by then.'"
Ainscough is a cracking little finisher, but he's always going to have that chink in his armour that Warrington exploited under the high ball - unless he acquires some genetically modified legs.
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| Quote ="Frosties."Putting up a good fight with Mr Ainscough at the moment for it, but imo I think that it will happen soon. Really good player is Ryan, and think that in time could be one of the best wingers in SL.. that is if he hasnt moved into the pack by then.'"
It would great to Ainscough up against Folau - especially for the high ball
The one Folau caught on Friday he must have been 4/5 ft in air ie about as high as Ainscough!!!
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| Quote ="Hollywood Harrigan"Watched the game back and was surprised to hear the Sky team start banging the drum for Ryan Halls inclusion on the wing for England. I can see why though as IMO he is the best all round winger in SL this season and made the last England winger (Calderwood) look like a tool last night on more than 1 occasion, but what so you think? Is it too early yet? Or are we that short on top Wingers that he is just in the right place at the right time?
What I do like about him is that he always seems to break the tackle and adds a lot of go forward coming off the line which, lets face it, Calderwood never did that. He has also developed his speed now in although not the quickest, isnt too far behing. He's also a unit. Manu Vatuvei watch out ay
Anyway all I can say is that I have been very critical of him over the last 3 or 4 years and i am glad he has proven me wrong.
Keep it up Ryan'"
As you know I'm his Number 1 fan & think he has improved 100% since last year - so keep it up Spaceman!
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| To be honest I think, in many respects, it should be too soon for Hall, who is not the finished article. But as it is, the competition for wing places in the England team is somewhat less than ferocious, so he may have a chance sooner than might otherwise be expected. If he continues to develop well, there's no reason he can't be genuine international quality in 2 or 3 years time.
I've only seen a couple of full games of Ainscough, but he looks a good finisher but a bit vulnerable on defence. Wouldn't be fair of me to say that is necessarily representative of his whole season though.
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| Quote ="Hollywood Harrigan"Watched the game back and was surprised to hear the Sky team start banging the drum for Ryan Halls inclusion on the wing for England. I can see why though as IMO he is the best all round winger in SL this season and made the last England winger (Calderwood) look like a tool last night on more than 1 occasion, but what so you think? Is it too early yet? Or are we that short on top Wingers that he is just in the right place at the right time?
What I do like about him is that he always seems to break the tackle and adds a lot of go forward coming off the line which, lets face it, Calderwood never did that. He has also developed his speed now in although not the quickest, isnt too far behing. He's also a unit. Manu Vatuvei watch out ay
Anyway all I can say is that I have been very critical of him over the last 3 or 4 years and i am glad he has proven me wrong.
Keep it up Ryan'"
He's developed well this year.
But if Smith isn't ready for England centre yet, he still should be first choice winger.
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| Quote ="Sallystar"As you know I'm his Number 1 fan & think he has improved 100% since last year - so keep it up Spaceman!
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| Quote ="Hollywood Harrigan"Yeah, I bet you have the WCC08 changing room clip on loop at your house dont you
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| Quote ="Hollywood Harrigan"Yeah, I bet you have the WCC08 changing room clip on loop at your house dont you
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She has it as her screen saver and Wallpaper print screen mate
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| Quote ="Hollywood Harrigan"icon_lol.gif
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| He's faster than we all thought, or seems to have gained some pace since last season.
He's great at attacking high kicks, which is an essential part of the wingers role nowadays.
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| Not England ready yet, although I'd put him in ahead of Ainscough who to me is terribly overhyped.
Jason Demetriou put in a good shout for him to be Young Player of the Year on Radio Leeds, and I like that prospect. He's becoming a solid and reliable winger who is getting some spectacular-ness to his game also. Be interesting to see how he does without Senior inside him though...
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| Quote ="Richie"He's faster than we all thought'"
He is and I'd say his fitness levels or ability to play at SL level has improved markedly in the last 12 months also.
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| I think he's been very good but i don't know if i'd throw him into the england 13/17 yet.
I'd have him in the overall squad but not starting just yet!
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| Quote ="rhinoms"I think he's been very good but i don't know if i'd throw him into the england 13/17 yet.
I'd have him in the overall squad but not starting just yet!'"
I think its worthwhile trying him for the France test to see how he goes - nothing to lose & it would be good experience for him
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| Quote ="Sallystar"I think its worthwhile trying him for the France test to see how he goes - nothing to lose & it would be good experience for him'"
Fair call sally as long as too much isn't expected too soon!
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| Quote ="rhinoms"Fair call sally as long as too much isn't expected too soon!'"
he did ok in the GF08! - can't get much of a bigger occasion than that - unless your a Stains fan of course
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| Quote ="Sallystar"he did ok in the GF08! - can't get much of a bigger occasion than that - unless your a Stains fan of course
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He did but up against meli
We are talking about the NEXT level with the 4 nations,the kiwi's and aussie's have far superior back divisions imo as proved in the world cup!
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| Quote ="rhinoms"He did but up against meli
We are talking about the NEXT level with the 4 nations,the kiwi's and aussie's have far superior back divisions imo as proved in the world cup!'"
well let see whether TS thinks he's up for the challenge
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