Exactly.

After one failed set Ryan Hall was literally stamping his feet in frustration, after Galloway ran in a circle then passed to Cuthbertson who knocked on. Another of those sets, on the last tackle the dummy half (Burrow) passed to JJB, who passed to Singleton, who passed into the crowd.

Those diabolical final sets were a perfect microcosm of this seasons attacking shambles.

Sorry to be a pedant, but that's actually a photo that shows that the ball isn't on the line at that moment, it's from at least a couple of frames after the screen shot I put up and it proves nothing about whether the ball had hit the line or not. Either way, those claiming that with the naked eye and in real time from 25 feet away it was clear as day that Ferres was 'well short' of the line are wrong.

Ball is on the ground. It's clearly out of his grasp - he has his fingers resting on the top of it.

If the ball is propelled forward from that point, then it's a knock-on. There is no way from that photo that you could either give that as a try or see a way in which it could become a try.

No, but what I'm saying is that (in my opinion) the ball may have already been grounded on the line prior to that shot, and that this is when the ball has come away from both the line and his hand after that moment. As I said, the twitter still is clearly from a couple of frames after the still I posted (you can tell by the position of the defender who's coming in from the sides hands) and with Ferres being pulled back and the way a rugby ball reacts to being placed on the ground there is no way from that photo that you can say that the ball has definitely not been on the line prior to the shot being taken.

But it clearly wasn't grounded on the line as everybody in the Carnegie Stand can testify.
It was short - no question of that.
The bigger question mark ought to be about the alleged interference in the two play the balls right under the Widnes sticks in the last 5 minutes or so.
Having said that I don't hold Thaler responsible for the loss, we did not deserve to win for all the reasons stated earlier.

I'm at the U16 game v cas. looking forward to it