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| Quote ="HyperbolicRhino"I can associate with so much of this... My timing was superb - I started watching Leeds in the early 80s thereby missing the back to back cup success in the late '70s, and embarked on a decade and a half of "nearly's"... The 24-24 draw with Hull K R in the cup semi, the painful replay, the one point defeat to Saints in the final of the John Player Trophy having knocked Wigan out in the semi, the humilitaing nilling by Widnes in the final mentioned above by others, and a similarly painful hammering, again by Widnes, in a Challenge cup semi - both games I genuinely thought we were going to win... Wembley in '94, when I didn't think we were going to win, but started to believe during the 2nd half comeback and enjoyed my first trip to Wembley too much to be too disheartened when we eventually ran out of steam, then the rematch a year later when I genuinely thought we were going to win, and all we got was yet another throwback to the dark days, until finally the pain ended (well, temporarily...) in 1999. Not a right lot in between on the positive front, bar the '88 Yorkshire Cup run - the Paul Medley inspired comeback from 21-8 to 24-21 against Bradford, the late Sam Backo winner against Hull, and the two interceptions from Schofield and Gibson in the hammering of Cas in the final (for some reason I can't remember anything about the '84 John Player Trophy win). I did win a signed ball once by collecting all the player cards from the policemen outside the ground - think I got presented the ball by John Basnett if I remember rightly - I suppose that was a highlight
But the past 9 years, and in particular the past 6? Way more payback than I could ever have imagined for all the pain, suffering, quashed expectation and hopes that the 80s and 90s brought. Very few fans get to be as lucky as we have been to enjoy such success, and every single moment of it will be treasured always. Every Grand Final win has been special, and I will never, ever grow tired of nights like that. For some reason though, last night seemed like the most special of them all... What these players have achieved against all the odds over the past couple of years has been astonishing, and what makes me more happy than anything else is the pride they all clearly have in the shirt... pride I assumed my boyhood heroes had also had, only to have my eyes opened painfully by various revelations since. There are no show pony "superstars" in this team, simply a group of normal blokes whose performances time after time after time are anything but normal. For 15 of the 17 last night to be British (and the vast majority of those Yorkshire born) is especially pleasing, as is the fact that the two imports in the team have blended seemlessly over the past few years into the club mentality, a far cry from some of the highly paid under performing "mercenaries" of the 80s and 90s. It certainly seems like money means very little, if anything at all, to any of those players - it's all about the club, the shirt, and each other. For that, we are the luckiest fans in sport right now.'"
This is the best post i have read on here for ages, I dont post very often but this basically sums up my time of watching Leeds since the late 80's. I think we should all take stock and immense pride and satisfaction in watching what we have seen in the last decade as to do this in a salary cap era is quite remarkable. In my opinion a great amount of credit must go to GH.
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| Quote ="Him"Yep. And if we win the WCC we'll be the first club to win it back to back.'"
I never realised Lewis Jones held the championship final record points scored,considering there have been some high points scoring finals
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| He held the LEEDS record. I don't know about any others.
I took my info from last season's handbook. Not always the most reliable tome.
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| Now the dust has settled on another GF victory, it allows you to think of what Leeds have achieved in the last nine years. First games i went to where CC finals in the 1970's being brought up down in London. Started watching Leeds properly since the mid 1980's and god there have been some deep lows with the odd high. One of the best was in i think 92 going to Central Park and i think we turned over Wigan 16-0, but so many defeats to Wigan the destruction of us by Charriots and the last ever Premier Ship final when Wigan and in particular Jason Robinson destroyed us. Semi final defeats in the mid 1990's to Bradford and then in the earl 2000's to Saint Helens. You started to believe that Leeds were never going to be the best, then going to Bradford year after to year to get hammered, only being brightened up by seeing Barry Mac hit Fielden. Buying so called super stars only to find out they were here for one more pay day.
But it changed with Tony Smith, remember saying after losing to Wigan in the play offs in 2003 that i cannot face getting so far and no further. But Tony Smith turned Leeds around he built a wining side, gone were the days of beating a side by 40 points one week and then losing the next week. He was lucky to have a group of young players to build the side around.
This side is on a par with the Wigan side of the late 80's if not a better side as it is a more level playing field with all sides full time and the cap. I think as Leeds supporters we don't actually see what these team has achieved, it has won the league 6 times out of 9 years. In the history of Rugby League not many sides have done that.
If you had said this to me in 2003 this was going to happen, i would have said you need a bed in High Royds.
WELL DONE LEEDS.
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| Quote ="huddersfield rhino"Now the dust has settled on another GF victory, it allows you to think of what Leeds have achieved in the last nine years. First games i went to where CC finals in the 1970's being brought up down in London. Started watching Leeds properly since the mid 1980's and god there have been some deep lows with the odd high. One of the best was in i think 92 going to Central Park and i think we turned over Wigan 16-0, but so many defeats to Wigan the destruction of us by Charriots and the last ever Premier Ship final when Wigan and in particular Jason Robinson destroyed us. Semi final defeats in the mid 1990's to Bradford and then in the earl 2000's to Saint Helens. You started to believe that Leeds were never going to be the best, then going to Bradford year after to year to get hammered, only being brightened up by seeing Barry Mac hit Fielden. Buying so called super stars only to find out they were here for one more pay day.
But it changed with Tony Smith, remember saying after losing to Wigan in the play offs in 2003 that i cannot face getting so far and no further. But Tony Smith turned Leeds around he built a wining side, gone were the days of beating a side by 40 points one week and then losing the next week. He was lucky to have a group of young players to build the side around.
This side is on a par with the Wigan side of the late 80's if not a better side as it is a more level playing field with all sides full time and the cap. I think as Leeds supporters we don't actually see what these team has achieved, it has won the league 6 times out of 9 years. In the history of Rugby League not many sides have done that.
If you had said this to me in 2003 this was going to happen, i would have said you need a bed in High Royds.
WELL DONE LEEDS.'"
Well said.
I remember the Wigan game you mention well (though i think it was actually 19-0, sorry to be a pedant!) as it was the first time i'd been to Central park and seen Leeds win against them. Me and my dad used to go in the Swinley Labour Club near the ground before each game, my dad's mate was a member so we'd meet up and he'd take us in for the banter. They used to play re-runs of all the Challenge Cup wins in the backroom there on matchday so it was always agonising having to listen to their fans drone on and on about how amazing Wigan were and how Leeds would never achieve such greatness ( ). Needless to say as we walked out of the ground the guys who'd been crowing about 'amazing Wigan' before the game were now deathly silent, heads bowed not making eye contact with anyone. It was a beautiful moment, we didn't even have to goad them (but we did a bit anyway), you could see the sense of utter disappointment etched on their faces. As Leeds fans we knew [iexactly[/i how that felt which is what made it all the more sweet.
I've thought about that match a lot over the last few years, in the sense that even though it was a lovely feeling to beat them in their own back yard we knew deep down that the following week we'd probably be dreadful again. Not so with this current team. We've been to a dominant Warrington last year and a dominant Wigan this year and beaten them both, and not just in relatively 'meaningless' weekly round games either, but when it [ireally[/i mattered. And then gone on to win the GF as underdogs. Then there are the years Saints were outright favourites, nailed on to win the Grand Final, and we all know what happened then. Such a great team this current lot, and i'm ever so grateful to the players, coaches and staff past and especially present who've given me and my dad such wonderful memories.
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| saw my first game as a youngster in 91 or 92 against Hull. i think my 2nd game was Salford about 2 or 3 years later Harvey Howard (was that his name?) got sent off on his debut, it was then when i was hooked and my dad bought myself and my brother season tickets the following year and ive had one every season ever since. early good memories include beating wigan for the first time that id seen on my 8th birthday in 94.
so like everyone else on here i have seen a barren spell of 1 trophy in 13 years admittedly not as long as others. the 94 and 95 finals were early memories of disappointment as was the sickening first season of summer rugby. But Dean Bells academy set up was the beginning of the incredible chapter that we are seeing now. the realatively poor seasons of 2000 to 2002 regardless of our record winning streak in 2000 and the play off failure against a lacklustre Wigan side in 2003 had me thinking that i would never see our team be the best. but these past 9 seasons have defied belief with the success that homegrown stars and the odd aussie thrown in have brought. Yes the challenge cup continues to evade us but despite the great players my dad tells me about from the 60's and 70's this is still the finest Leeds side ever!
And i have to ask myself 'Are we watching the greatest side in the history of Rugby League?'
we are all truly lucky to be a part of it!
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