If you don’t praise efforts such as the drop out against Quins and criticise instead, I assume you also criticise when such efforts actually come off? If you don’t, then you sir are the definition of a hypocrite.

Sinfield has won countless games from his ability to read a game and create glimpses of brilliance and ingenuity, I trust you look disgruntled when the drop out was regained against Wigan? Or when the chip over to Hall against Warrington was inch perfect?

It’s easy to criticise when something doesn’t come of then praise when it does.

Fair point. How they arrive at the missed tackles total is a mystery.

I have done a quick comparision with Bradford and Hull KR and we can breath a sigh of relief that we are not the worst for missed tackles. Leeds-194, Bradford-268, and Hull KR-266 So if your logic is correct re the bottom sides it is likely the others are also worse than us.

I'm not disputing your facts mainly because I have little desire to look them up myself but how can we have the most errors and most carries?

It seems to me that they should be mutually exclusive unless were are winning more repeat sets or something like that which I suspect isn't the case.

I dont know how many times he has been knocked out I think 2? but when taking the ball up he leads(or seems to) with his head.

Quote ="Charlie Brown"I'm not disputing your facts mainly because I have little desire to look them up myself but how can we have the most errors and most carries? It seems to me that they should be mutually exclusive unless were are winning more repeat sets or something like that which I suspect isn't the case.'" I take your point but below are links to the stats and also repeat statsof recent game at Hull KR www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... 11&hp2=200 1st place for offloads 2nd place for the number of carries 3rd place for the most metres made. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... 11&hp2=200 Leeds ..... Hull KR Metres Made .......... 1430 ..... 1403 Carries .......... 210 ..... 187 Tackles .......... 289 ..... 268 Offloads .......... 12 ..... 9 Attacking Kicks .......... 10 ..... 14 Runs from Dummy Half .......... 27 ..... 18 Tackle Busts .......... 16 ..... 20 Marker Tackles .......... 28 ..... 33 Clean Breaks .......... 4 ..... 8 40/20 .......... 0 ..... 0 Kicks In General Play .......... 17 ..... 20 Missed Tackles .......... 21 ..... 15 Errors Made .......... 11 ..... 7 Penalties Conceded .......... 11 ..... 3

Quote ="Charlie Brown"I'm not disputing your facts mainly because I have little desire to look them up myself but how can we have the most errors and most carries? It seems to me that they should be mutually exclusive unless were are winning more repeat sets or something like that which I suspect isn't the case.'" I take your point but below are links to the stats and also repeat statsof recent game at Hull KR www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... 11&hp2=200 1st place for offloads 2nd place for the number of carries 3rd place for the most metres made. www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... 11&hp2=200 Leeds ..... Hull KR Metres Made .......... 1430 ..... 1403 Carries .......... 210 ..... 187 Tackles .......... 289 ..... 268 Offloads .......... 12 ..... 9 Attacking Kicks .......... 10 ..... 14 Runs from Dummy Half .......... 27 ..... 18 Tackle Busts .......... 16 ..... 20 Marker Tackles .......... 28 ..... 33 Clean Breaks .......... 4 ..... 8 40/20 .......... 0 ..... 0 Kicks In General Play .......... 17 ..... 20 Missed Tackles .......... 21 ..... 15 Errors Made .......... 11 ..... 7 Penalties Conceded .......... 11 ..... 3

He's had bangs to the head in more or less every game.

Against the Giants not only did he play ok he also bashed the back of this head going in with the ball. Original ain't he?

I wonder what's in store today?

You can just see how he got into rugby: fit, big, lad shifting steel around all day and he's probably thought 'I can do that', which to an extent he has done very well. Pro rugby player, state of origin experience, you can't argue with the facts of what people have achieved. So well done to him.

But he seems to have no natural ability, he looks confused on the field. He just has the brawn to get by. To get a player across (no pun itended) of his limited ability, age against him, with younger players like Ambler (who must be at least his equal) who bide their time and are home-grown are left to display their talents at another Super League club - just doesn't sit well with me. More quality control required.