i cant see past a saints win really. Wigan i thought struggled at home against Cas and I dont think they were all that great against hull kr, just hull kr were the poorer team on the day.

They're always ''there or thereabouts'' in the playoffs though are wigan aren't they?

The only seasons i can think of where they didn't play in a grand final or an eliminator were 99 and the years they missed out on the playoffs.

So EVERY year bar one they have competed in the playoffs they have made a grand final or a semi.

I find it quite hilarious that wigan of all clubs only have one title to show for this so far from what is a very good playoff record.

As I have said before, the old MoS was a bunch of 'experts' panel decision and the new MoS is really now a Players Player award.

If we really want to to have a true MoS award it should be from a 10 strong short-list, picked by the expert panel, and then voted on by fans, players and the RL press with appropriate weighting being used to ensure that the fans votes play a smaller percentage of the overall result to stop club bias. You could then award a MoS and also a fans player of the year, a players player of the year and an RL press player of the year.

Just a thought!

This is a bit confused if you don't mind me saying.

[iWigan are always "there or thereabouts"[/i - except in the seasons they miss the play offs altogether.

[i"So EVERY year bar one" [/i- Bar three in reality.

I agree that Wigan have an impressive play off record when you discount the whole point of being there is to win the Grand Final and in Brian Noble they have unquestionably the Don of Play Off coaches with an incredible 80% win record. [url=http://viewtopic.php?t=341569&start=330The coaches will be the subject of this week's feature when I get around to doing it[/url.