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| Turner clear knock on after 72 mins onto your player's foot but you don't get those if you're not trendy top 4.
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| Not unlucky....24-6 up and walking it......blew it big time.
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| Didn't blow it. Saints decided to turn up. Should have won though. No way was that a try. Last one may not have been a try too and also Mackinson was very close as well.
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| thought Makinson's hit the in goal whitewash personally...
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| Unlucky Cas! Also thought Makinson's try hit the whitewash. But you can't let teams like Saints get a sniff
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| Quote ="newport dave"Not unlucky....24-6 up and walking it......blew it big time.'"
Rules is rules though. If a side is 'walking it' the laws don't change. Not even for Saints.
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| Looks in to me....
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| Quote ="newport dave"Looks in to me....
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Dubious at best but benefit of doubt a possibility. Turner knock on was just another embarrassment for the officials and has cost cas 2 points.
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| Yes he's in but his fingers are supposed to touch ball all way down
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Dubious at best but benefit of doubt a possibility. Turner knock on was just another embarrassment for the officials and has cost cas 2 points.'"
Balls not in touch, so it's a try. You don't need every finger on it to touch it down. He's got at least two fingers on it.
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| Quote ="newport dave"Balls not in touch, so it's a try. You don't need every finger on it to touch it down. He's got at least two fingers on it.'"
Like I said benefit of the doubt a possibility at best for makinson try. The Turner knock on was simply a joke and has completely altered the result of the match.
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| 2 knock ons, 2 tries.
Huby stripped inside his own 30 2 on 1, play on.
Then you have: Weller Hauraki 2 AWFUL passes leading to turnovers, he does it every single game! Can't let a lead like that slip, even if you have the bent RFL eployees against you too - that's just too many points to squander.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"2 knock ons, 2 tries.
Huby stripped inside his own 30 2 on 1, play on.
Then you have: Weller Hauraki 2 AWFUL passes leading to turnovers, he does it every single game! Can't let a lead like that slip, even if you have the bent RFL eployees against you too - that's just too many points to squander.'"
re: Huby ball strip >seeThe blatant ball strip out of Walmesleys grasp that led to a Cas try works both ways.
But all in all cracking game hard luck Cas
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| Cas should not have lost.
They should have stuck to their game plan as Powell said.
But for Wellens try the ref should surely have gone to the video review after having done so for 5 or 6 previous decisions.
And why does this keep happening in Saints favour? I remember a game at the Boulevard (ok, showing my age) when Saints took the lead late in the game with a try after Joynt had gone in touch but the officials failed to notice even though he got up from a tackle with white paint from the touch line on his head!
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| Get used to it Cas fans
We had 3 and a bit seasons of choking when it mattered under Daryl Powell
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Turner clear knock on after 72 mins onto your player's foot but you don't get those if you're not trendy top 4.'"
This kind of attitude gets proper boring. Some decisions go for you, some go against you. Like a few Huddersfield fans last week you only pick up on the decisions that go against you.
Cas are a top drawer side, they just fluffed it near the end. There's no favouritism , and just a reminder that we didn't even finish top 4 last year.
All best!!
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| Unlucky Cas. But you simply can't St Helens a sniff. And poor brainless play when you had them on their own line.
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| Quote ="Twentyman"This kind of attitude gets proper boring. Some decisions go for you, some go against you. Like a few Huddersfield fans last week you only pick up on the decisions that go against you.
Cas are a top drawer side, they just fluffed it near the end. There's no favouritism , and just a reminder that we didn't even finish top 4 last year.
All best!!'"
I'm not a Cas fan which makes your post a joke at best. One man's fluff at the end is another man's cock up by the officials. The most boring thing is how often it happens.
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| Hard luck today you was top class for first half. Played some great entertaining rugby and classy Cas was on show.
I also like Powell, I think he's a top coach that shows class.
Good luck for rest of the season.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"I'm not a Cas fan which makes your post a joke at best. One man's fluff at the end is another man's cock up by the officials. The most boring thing is how often it happens.'"
It doesn't matter if you're not a Cas fan. You're still only seeing the decisions that go for Saints than the one's that go against them. You clearly have some misguided prejudice against Saints (and I'm guessing a few others). It clouds your judgement a bit. Cas snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. It won't happen to often though cos they've got plenty of attacking class.
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| Quote ="Twentyman"It doesn't matter if you're not a Cas fan. You're still only seeing the decisions that go for Saints than the one's that go against them. You clearly have some misguided prejudice against Saints (and I'm guessing a few others). It clouds your judgement a bit. Cas snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. It won't happen to often though cos they've got plenty of attacking class.'"
Unfortunately you've no argument against my main point about the poor decision that allowed St Helens to win. I don't care about cas or saints which probably makes me well placed to comment. Certainly better placed than you unless I've misread you as an out and out saints fan?
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| Gutted, just lacked some composure at the end to close the game down. Hopefully the team has earned more peoples respect and we currently deserve to be where we are.
Where I was stood at the ground I couldn't see the screen clearly but lots of people were talking about the Turner incident outside the ground.
Saints luck may run out at the business end of the season, using up some at the moment!
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| The officials are garbage. 2 calls tonight cost Cas the game on both occasions try`s resulted . Same on Sunday against the Giants.
I want to believe that refs are completely fair and aboveboard, but this week is making me think they are not. And why are touchjudges not getting involved more if a ref has not seen something, or does not want to see it.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Unfortunately you've no argument against my main point about the poor decision that allowed St Helens to win. I don't care about cas or saints which probably makes me well placed to comment. Certainly better placed than you unless I've misread you as an out and out saints fan?'"
Yes, I am a Saints fan. I naturally get caught up in the drama but I can be subjective and see when decisions go for us.
My issue was with the trendy top 4 comment. There was a lot said about that last week too. I don't believe the RFL or the officials have any bias towards Saints, Wigan, Leeds etc Decisions go for and against you, it balances out over the season. We had a try disallowed for a forward pass tonight, at a time when we kept dropping ball and losing momentum. It doesn't always go for us. You create your own luck though. You put pressure on the opposition and give the ref more to think about.
Anyway, we'll agree to disagree. No bickering intended mate.
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| Absolutely gutted!!!!!!
Thought we didn't help ourselves in the 2nd half, at times it looked like we were the team behind throwing some risky passes which ultimately contributed to the defeat (alongside some strange refereeing). Once we got into the position that we did at half time, we should have stuck to the basics in the 2nd half, rather than trying fancy moves, which is what cost us in several games last year.
One thing tonight enforced for me though was that we can mix it with anybody this season, and when a team comes to the Jungle, they are going to have to work very hard to leave with anything.
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