Well with Rangi leaving, will be interesting to know who Cas supporters think is the best stand off we have ever had.

Must be a choice between. Hardisty, Burton, Steadman, and Chase.

I loved all 4 of them, but I think I'll give the nod to Chuck hardisty.

John Joyner.

Joyner for me, though I guess it's arguable about his best position

You could actually vote for Joyner in 3 categories - Centre, Stand-off and loose Forward. Classiest S/O I've ever seen but the Hardisty / Hepworth era was before my time.

Can't agree, JJ was a great player but predominantly a centre converted to Loose Forward and Stand off later in his career -also a true gent, , Burton, Steadman and Chase have all been greats stand off's but all lack the class, vision during a game and loyalty to Cas that Hardisty had, this puts him head and shoulders above the rest. He did however come second to Chase in one area - ego.....

Agree Casof 86. very true

John Joyner great loyal one man club, but not a stand off, played there a 3 or 4 years.
Not in same class as Chuck.

Anyone who never saw alan hardisty play wont appreciate how good he was.

In my time of waching cas from 1958 to present.
It as to be hardisty.
What chase does is magical, but he imo was never consistant game after game in conjuring up that magic.

Hardisty was consistant every game and was a brilliant stand off.

I would also say Hardisty was your greatest ever player.Also don't forget he kept out the young and also great Roger Millward who had to be transferred to do great things with Hull KR and GB.If they let Alan move and kept Roger I think a few would be saying Millward was our greatest

Mal Reilly was our best ever player - Joyner Hardisty and Hepworth right up there too

Dennis Hartley was he best prop we've ever had I think

All the players who were mentioned as the best no.6 all had different styles of play so it is difficult to choose.

Never watched Hardisty play but my late Dad always maintained he wouldn't have been as good a player had he not had Keith Hepworth as his half back partner.

Joyner and Steadman played in different positions as well as stand off, and they along with Hardisty also played in more successful teams than Chase has...he has practically carried our attack for the last few years so for me Rangi just shades it.

Hardisty was also an interception Expert he could read and time them to perfection

I would argue that they should have kept Millward and got rid of Hepworth.
Both Hardisty and Millward were fantastic players.

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Agree Roger went on to become a better player than Chuck. Taking into account all the variables Chase is the best ever Cas stand-off. IMO Reilly is unarguably the best to ever play for us......by a country mile.

I expect this thread to generate a host of nostalgic and rose-tinted reminisces with regards to past icons.

For me, though, Chase has been nothing short of astonishing.

Whilst my age prevents me from comparing him with the likes of Reilly and Hardisty et al, I can honestly state that I would not wish to exchange him for any player world-wide (who could guarantee that if a Tomkins or Thurston were to put on a Tigers shirt they'd single-handedly win us so many games).

Not to mention those countless moments of sheer magic he regularly conjures out of nothing which the rest of the world's players seem incapable of.

Will be gut-wrenching to see him play elsewhere, but can't help feeling blessed with the great memories he leaves behind.

I always loved watching Cas when you had the best overseas contingent in the league of Nikau Blackmore and Kemp. Tony Kemp was class and tough as old boots.

100 percent agree with this post, couldn't have put it better !!!

Here's a bit of Arthus Atkinson magic from 1935 from today's Mirror.co.uk :- www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby-lea ... al-2199922 How the game and the style of jeornalism has changed in 80 years is astonishing.

Here's a bit of Arthus Atkinson magic from 1935 from today's Mirror.co.uk :- www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby-lea ... al-2199922 How the game and the style of jeornalism has changed in 80 years is astonishing.

Hardisty would be my choice, probably not fair to compere him with chase as the game has changed since hardisty last played.
It's remarkable how many top players cas has produced over the years, my number one stand out player would be mal Reilly . I was fortunate to see him at his best, also I know plenty of people who saw him in Australia , he was just as good if not better over there.

I remember Leeds bidding 10k for Hardisty I think it was before the emergence of the Roy Francis era got going

Quote ="Tigerade"Here's a bit of Arthus Atkinson magic from 1935 from today's Mirror.co.uk :- www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby-lea ... al-2199922 How the game and the style of jeornalism has changed in 80 years is astonishing.'" Just shows how sloppy journalism has become these days in general. Back then they prided themselves at reporting accurately and properly, all we get today is poorly worded rumour dressed-up as news. Great vid too. I'm always fascinated watching the games of yeateryear when our sport was a major draw and teams played every match in front of tens of thousands.

Quote ="Tigerade"Here's a bit of Arthus Atkinson magic from 1935 from today's Mirror.co.uk :- www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby-lea ... al-2199922 How the game and the style of jeornalism has changed in 80 years is astonishing.'" Just shows how sloppy journalism has become these days in general. Back then they prided themselves at reporting accurately and properly, all we get today is poorly worded rumour dressed-up as news. Great vid too. I'm always fascinated watching the games of yeateryear when our sport was a major draw and teams played every match in front of tens of thousands.

I think that the game has changed, so it is difficult to compare players like Hardisty and Chase. One big factor is that we now play 'summer' rugby, which does make the game faster, whereas Hardisty played on softer muddier pitches.
Another factor is the general fitness. In the 60's and 70's players were part time, so didnt have the time current players have to use the gym (if they had one) and trained maybe 3 times a week, usually in the evenings, in the dark, not like current players who are full time so can train everyday.
All in all, my gut feeling is that if Hardisty had been playing in today's conditions he would have been an even better player than he was - and even better than Chase!!!!

I agree, not just the mud but the old leather ball & boots what soaked up all the water feeling like you had waits on your feet rather than the slippers they ware today.

Millward for me was a great player , and was good to the lad when was playing for Halifax , but Steadman was a joy to watch , always enjoyed watching "cas" play , good honest family club .

Wehen you used to play us (Hull FC) I used to love watching your kiwi's, particuarly Kemp, he was a fantastic player.