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| Seems a shame that the RFL cant hand you the 2 SL points that they have taken from Salford for losing the appeal against the £10K original fine.
Its only fair I would have thought !
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| Maybe if they appeal again they might!! I'm content with that, Salford didn't deserve the 2 points but I don't think it's fair to say we do either.
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| Justice has prevailed. I'm happy with that.
Out of interest - is the 5K an addition to the 10K allready paid or is it just 5K and 2 points ?
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| Sense prevails at last!
2 point deduction should have been handed down at the first hearing! Maybe the appeals panel have been influenced by all the negativity spoken about the first punishment of 10K.
This should be the at least the standard punishment for anyone fielding more than 13 players during a game.
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| It is a 15k fine now
two point deduction spot on - they were two points gained by unknowingly cheating.
Excellent work from the RFL
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| Quote ="PAC"Seems a shame that the RFL cant hand you the 2 SL points that they have taken from Salford for losing the appeal against the £10K original fine.
Its only fair I would have thought !'"
You can't award a team points based on what might be. Cas may have gone on to win, but equally, they may not have. Doesn't matter what your opinion on the matter is, you basically can't make premonitions. So that's why it would never happen.
It seems a little Draconian to me but it is ultimately meaningless in the context of the League anyway. It's hardly going to derail a run for the play-offs for us. However, I don't think the Dr will be sweating over what is essentially beer money to him.
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| as I have asked - why did they appeal if it meant nothing to them?
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| Happy with that result.
The RFL may be getting a bit peeved with the Electrician's antics.
Rory Gallagher RIP
Died 14/06/1995 aged 47
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| born on 2nd March 1948 I believe Alf!
you can ride on the crest of a wave if that's where you wanna be.... (kinda aapt in this situation lol)
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| Quote ="DAVE@CAS1990"born on 2nd March 1948 I believe Alf!
you can ride on the crest of a wave if that's where you wanna be.... (kinda aapt in this situation lol)'"
Indeed!!
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| Quote ="DAVE@CAS1990"It is a 15k fine now
two point deduction spot on - they were two points gained by unknowingly cheating.
Excellent work from the RFL'"
I don't read it like that Dave, I read it that Salford have appealed the severity of the fine, they have reduced the fine to £5,000 but said it's to be levelled up by a points deduction.
They can't fine Salford £10,000 then on appeal increase it by another £5,000 and a points deduction surely?
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| But it does say on the official site.
"The tribunal [uhanded down the increased[/u sanction after rejecting Salford's appeal against the original fine of £10,000 imposed at a hearing on May 8.
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| that's exactly what I read Mick - hence I'm assuming they've been fined further
because they've now been found guilty of breaching THREE rules (5k for each one maybe?)
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| Yes - seen that. I think its a bit unclear at the moment.
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| if on the review they've been found guilty of a further offence - this would explain the points deduction AND a further fine.
I don't think they would just review the outcome based on the same verdict - this would make their disciplinary procedures look farcical
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| The opinion of a wide range of observers from fans, TV pundits on Boots N All and SL Backchat, the media and even Tony Smith is that Salford City Reds got off lightly with a £10,000 fine. The general opinion was that this decision was initially the wrong one and Salford should have not been awarded any points at all. The game was null and void – no one got the points and no one got fined. It was a mistake that had to be punished and this was the right way of doing it.
It was quite obvious that when the club appealed against this decision the RFL would back-track on its initial decision and go with the general feeling within the game. Basically Salford should have accepted the initial decision and thought themselves lucky to have got off lightly.
The decision to appeal was the wrong one and I wonder what made the club think it would win.
The RFL also have to be taken to task on why they got it wrong in the first place.
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| Think Koukash thinks he is that big I am, and Red Hall where maybe flexing their muscle and putting him back in his place.
Makes no difference to Salford anyway they most likely will be in the bottom 2 come the end of season.
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| Maybe Salford aren't classed as iconic?
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| Still abit sore arnt you
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| Quote ="JINJER"But it does say on the official site.
"The tribunal [uhanded down the increased[/u sanction after rejecting Salford's appeal against the original fine of £10,000 imposed at a hearing on May 8.'"
The increased sanction is the points deduction. A points deduction is worse than a fine.
The fine has been halved to £5k but they've got the higher penalty of a points deduction as a result.
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Dr Kool plays the victimisation card here:-
www1.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... 6/8776800/
"I may be wrong, but previously the only time a club has been deducted points
was for breaching the salary cap. I feel we are being victimised. A mistake was made in the heat of the moment, with only a few minutes to go in the match."
Hasn't the Dr recently condoned breaching the cap in his quest for glory ?
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Dr Kool plays the victimisation card here:-
www1.skysports.com/rugby-league/ ... 6/8776800/
"I may be wrong, but previously the only time a club has been deducted points
was for breaching the salary cap. I feel we are being victimised. A mistake was made in the heat of the moment, with only a few minutes to go in the match."
Hasn't the Dr recently condoned breaching the cap in his quest for glory ?
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| Quote ="Tigerade"
"I may be wrong"'"
He is, teams have been deducted points for other reasons, Wakey/Bradford and Crusaders all docked points for going in to admin
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| surprising that he's wrong considering his extensive knowledge of the sport...
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| He will be getting schooled in the ways of RL by Noby, first they play a player who was supposed to be on the bench, then they send an extra man on for thirty seconds, what doesn't sound a long time but when their line is being battered for the last minutes of the game an extra man fills a few big gaps, both players were involved in tackles, so if they played with 13 who knows it might have been a different result.
If the higher sanction is a points deduction I'm sure Cas would have raver lost 2 points instead of 40 grand for the verbal a player supposedly got.
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