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| The new coach has to have Cas in his blood, to install back the pride of playing or coaching a home town club.
On that basis the candidates would be John Kear, Daryl Powell, Mark Aston and Andy hay.
All born in or around Cas, certainly John Kear and Andy hay would jump at the job, maybe Powell, not too sure about Aston, he seems to be Mr Sheffield and doing a good job.
On Saturday you will see a different Castleford side, whoever is in charge. It was undoubtably a players revolt against Millward, I heard rumours everyday of squabbling, and even fighting on the team bus.
Cas to beat Widnes
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| Quote ="Scabbycat"The new coach has to have Cas in his blood, to install back the pride of playing or coaching a home town club.
On that basis the candidates would be John Kear, Daryl Powell, Mark Aston and Andy hay.
All born in or around Cas, certainly John Kear and Andy hay would jump at the job, maybe Powell, not too sure about Aston, he seems to be Mr Sheffield and doing a good job.
On Saturday you will see a different Castleford side, whoever is in charge. It was undoubtably a players revolt against Millward, I heard rumours everyday of squabbling, and even fighting on the team bus.
Cas to beat Widnes'"
Stuart Raper ??? Always remember him when he left saying if you cut his heart out a fair bit would be black and amber !!!
Him or Kear for me !
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| I just posted this on the Brian Noble thread
Quote ="Casman2"I asked Stuart and he said he would consider coming back as he doesn't have much to do these days.
I told him to get in touch with the club, even if it was in an advisory role to Danny for a few weeks/months it would certainly help!'"
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| Adrian Vowles and Tawera Nikau coming back as assistants to Stuart Raper/John Kear would be good enough for me but wheteher or not that will ever happen I really don't know.
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| Do we really have the money and resources to re-locate an Aussie coach (plus his family potentially) from the other side of the world?
Given the way things are we will be looking at the cheapest option I would guess, and that ain't gona be Raper, Morgan or Vowles sadly.
The way the BOD thinks it is better to get someone who we only have to pay petrol money, even if it means the club will not move forward.
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| Can anyone explain why Mark Aston is never a blatant contender?
I'm assuming he is strongly committed to the Eagles but surely a Super League opportunity with his home-town club must be enticing.
His achievements with limited resources have been nothing short of staggering.
My first choice by a mile.
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| Quote ="morrissey"Can anyone explain why Mark Aston is never a blatant contender?
I'm assuming he is strongly committed to the Eagles but surely a Super League opportunity with his home-town club must be enticing.
His achievements with limited resources have been nothing short of staggering.
My first choice by a mile.'"
I don't think that is a bad call.
For me, certainly in the short term, you need someone who can work with limited resources.
Kear and Aston both fit that bill.
Powell has always worked with teams that have maximum cap.
Noble I think is different as he will possibly not change things instantly and is used to having money but I think he would build a good team and club over time. He took the chance at Crusaders so he is not against slumming it at the bottom of super league as opposed to the Bulls or Wigan. (with the greatest of respect to Cas on that comment)
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| cant see Powell leaving Rovers for Cas at this point in time, Rovers just announced the building of a 300 square metre indoor building to house all gym, wrestle equipment plus a 60 x 40 3g indoor training pitch behind the railway end complete with showers etc, all done after consulting Powel, will give Rovers access to some of the best training facilities in the game, be very surprised if he left just yet
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| If I was a Cas supporter and with your present backs to the wall situation you seem to be in then there would only be one choice for me - Kear.
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| Quote ="gingdong"cant see Powell leaving Rovers for Cas at this point in time, Rovers just announced the building of a 300 square metre indoor building to house all gym, wrestle equipment plus a 60 x 40 3g indoor training pitch behind the railway end complete with showers etc, all done after consulting Powel, will give Rovers access to some of the best training facilities in the game, be very surprised if he left just yet'"
Yeah, he stop at Fev because they have better training facilities - righty oh then.
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| Quote ="morrissey"Can anyone explain why Mark Aston is never a blatant contender?
I'm assuming he is strongly committed to the Eagles but surely a Super League opportunity with his home-town club must be enticing.
His achievements with limited resources have been nothing short of staggering.
My first choice by a mile.'"
I've always been a big admirer of what Aston has done at Sheffield given the constraints. He would be a good choice for us and would have been before Millward came. Unfortunately I think it may be his lack of Super League experience that puts many clubs off, if in fact whether he applies for positions or not.
Quote ="gingdong"cant see Powell leaving Rovers for Cas at this point in time, Rovers just announced the building of a 300 square metre indoor building to house all gym, wrestle equipment plus a 60 x 40 3g indoor training pitch behind the railway end complete with showers etc, all done after consulting Powel, will give Rovers access to some of the best training facilities in the game, be very surprised if he left just yet'"
I hear a lot of people saying that Powell doesn't get on with Fev's new CEO, can't understand why.....
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| Quote ="Scabbycat"The new coach has to have Cas in his blood, to install back the pride of playing or coaching a home town club.
On that basis the candidates would be John Kear, Daryl Powell, Mark Aston and Andy hay.
All born in or around Cas, certainly John Kear and Andy hay would jump at the job, maybe Powell, not too sure about Aston, he seems to be Mr Sheffield and doing a good job.
On Saturday you will see a different Castleford side, whoever is in charge. It was undoubtably a players revolt against Millward, I heard rumours everyday of squabbling, and even fighting on the team bus.
Cas to beat Widnes'"
Sorry but that is utter nonsense and will take your club down.
John Kear is the best Coach we have had in the SL era and he didn't have Wakey in his blood did he.
Since Wakefield's glory days we have had a succession "Wakey in the blood" coaches and with the honourable exceptions of Toppo and Andy Kelly they were generally poor. Ken Trail who created the Trinity legend came from Bradford Northern!
In house is nearly always a disaster. If my memory serves me wasn't it under Steadman your decline began?
I'd go for Kear because he is good at sorting teams out not because he once lived in Cas. Go for the best you can get whoever they are.
Mate, it's not where they come from that matters, it's where they are going.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Yeah, he stop training facilities - righty oh then.'"
so you think training facilities are a non issue then idiot boy, don't you think a coach would take that into consideration when considering, especially when he has been at the forefront of designing the ones at Rovers. Wake up and smell the coffee the job at cas is a poisoned chalice at the moment
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| I'd have one that has the best ability, that can coach youngsters and can teach us how to defend and attack.
Oh and do a job on limited resources.
Kear is good at defence but not attack and can do a job on limited ability. Ticks two out of 3.
Powell can do well with a big team in a small pond but what about a smaller team in a big pond?
Morgan: Didn't have the youth structures at HKA and had to rely on overseas players. Still did well with the squad he had and was respected.
If I'm honest, Justin Morgan is my first choice.
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| Quote ="gingdong"so you think training facilities are a non issue then idiot boy, don't you think a coach would take that into consideration when considering, especially when he has been at the forefront of designing the ones at Rovers. Wake up and smell the coffee the job at cas is a poisoned chalice at the moment'"
Training facilities are not that high up on the agenda that a coach will say "I'm not going to apply for a SL coaching job because I would rather stay in NL1 because the training facilites are better".
You do know that Cas Tigers often use Fev's facilites already don't you ?
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| Fev hahahaha
'Im ok thanks, I don't want that job a bigger club has offered or a chance to prove myself in the countries top league, I want to stay in the pop and crisps league playing Hunslet because we have a great collection of weights and a few more treadmills'
One of the great unwashed tried convincing me they were signing Shenny this week lol #deluded
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| Quote ="vastman" In house is nearly always a disaster. If my memory serves me wasn't it under Steadman your decline began? '"
Yep, ditto John Joyner...although he won the Regal it was with Van der Velde's team.
Strange as it sounds sometimes a home town coach can have too much passion to be effective.
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| I would like the new coach to be an outsider, some one who doesn't have the Cas attitude, we have all these home grown players who should be busting a gut for the club no matter who he is, we have some problems off the field what we know aren't good but we don't know how bad they are because we don't get told nowt.
If we get a Coach from with in the club & he fails it's another players name tarnished in there eyes of the fans, Mr Kear would do a job in the short term, but he is another with Cas in his blood, & we have found that does not mean a lot with the departure of Mr Ferris who had Cas in his blood.
There has been rumor's that we want Mr Powell, a Cas lad, who has had nothing to do with the club, but he is a good up & coming coach & i would love him to take the club forward, as for Mr Aston another Cas lad, but he has got a big stake in Sheffield, when the debacle with Huddersfield went west he was the fella to start them back up.
It's been rumored that Mr Reilly will be taking a post, but i hope it's not the coaching post, he has the passion but his skills would be better used upstairs.
Stuart Raper has tweeted he would love the job, if thats the case he should send is application if not it's a none starter.
Justin Morgan has been linked, but i don't think we could afford him as he was said to want £200 grand a year.
I think we will end up with Danny Orr for the rest of the season & asses, how we go, but if we don't get the coaching situation right this time we will continue to be a basement team, Tonight will tell us if it was just the players not getting on with the coach, & if thats the case the new man will have to weed out the s&&t stirrers
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| Quote ="Cas Till I Die"Fev hahahaha
'Im ok thanks, I don't want that job a bigger club has offered or a chance to prove myself in the countries top league, I want to stay in the pop and crisps league playing Hunslet because we have a great collection of weights and a few more treadmills'
One of the great unwashed tried convincing me they were signing Shenny this week lol #deluded
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Bigger club my ass, your going down the gary glitter son shine, and as for the pop and crisp league you may be joining it very soon, you arrogant =#FF0000THIS DOESNT GET ROUND THE SWEAR FILTER AND PLEASE REFRAIN FROM THE PETTY NAME CALLING- Delboy66
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Training facilities are not that high up on the agenda that a coach will say "I'm not going to apply for a SL coaching job because I would rather stay in NL1 because the training facilites are better".
You do know that Cas Tigers often use Fev's facilites already don't you ?'"
Course I do and we charge you a fortune for it just a pity that a club that has had millions more from the game has to go to a club from the pop and crisp league to use there facilities,
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| Martyn Sadler speaking to Stuart Raper on FBook, wishing him well with job if he takes it and looks forward to seeing him in England next week.
It certainly suggests Raper is in the running.
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| It's not only the coach who sets the ethos and culture at the club it's all the backroom staff from the chairman to the strength and conditioning coach.
Wigan looked for a similar change a few seasons ago. The obviously had the resources to get the next big thing in Maguire but the chairman also understood the importance of local lads hence the appointment of Wane as the then number 2 and Radlinski as the team manager.
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| Quote ="gingdong"Bigger club my ass, your going down the gary glitter son shine, and as for the pop and crisp league you may be joining it very soon'"
When you have ever played a game in The big boys league come back and have a convo big lad..... Until then please feel free to do one
Booo hooo them big bad SL boys have had millions........ Are you too stupid to think about having to pay super league wages to get super league players ??? Your lot are immensely dumb !!!!!
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| Quote ="Scabbycat"The new coach has to have Cas in his blood, to install back the pride of playing or coaching a home town club.
On that basis the candidates would be John Kear, Daryl Powell, Mark Aston and Andy hay.
All born in or around Cas, certainly John Kear and Andy hay would jump at the job, maybe Powell, not too sure about Aston, he seems to be Mr Sheffield and doing a good job.
On Saturday you will see a different Castleford side, whoever is in charge. It was undoubtably a players revolt against Millward, I heard rumours everyday of squabbling, and even fighting on the team bus.
Cas to beat Widnes'"
not necesary tony smith isnt from leeds turned em into winners same at warrington . brian noble has had sucee with and without silverware at diff clubs.nostalgia and the heartfelt feelings have to go out of the window.who honestly thinks andy hay can come in and rescue us ? its got to be the best man that money can get if that means a man who is from aus america or featherstone so be it its a professional sport and the salary paid to such person should be the main motivation a new coach that and the desire to be the best so forget all the vowlsey andy hay mal reily nikau raper fair enough legends all of em but lets move onward n upward. john kear for me .
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