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| C clueless
A ambitionless
S shoddy defence
T tackle shy
L lacking in spirit
E easy to beat
F forget to play for 80 mins
O owe the fans a big game
R revolve around rangi
D dreadful on saturday.
Mr Donlan said after the match "the players started feeling sorry for themselves" maybe they should start feeling sorry for the fans who part with their hard earned cash every week.
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| I think its time we had someone else at the helm. We all know only too well what the club has been through since he took over. That I could just about live with, but it is apparent Mr Wright has no ambition for the club. He does not have the ability or the financial clout to take the club further. Fans want a team that has the ability to compete for honours, but the BOD seem happy just to survive. There are other factors too, how they have treated a number of players has been nothing short of disgraceful (Sherwin, Mathers). A number of players have left as a result of the clubs "negotiation" tactics. It has in the past made me feel ashamed to be asscociated with the club. On the other hand, we have the stupidly large contracts handed out to undeserving players which have been a millstone around the clubs neck. Then we have the stadium fiasco where as a fan I feel I have been lied to, whether this is because I have been lied to, or because of how the club don't communicate with the fans I dont know.
Then we have heard a number of stories where the club have turned down investment. If true why would they do this? Presumably because some members of the board dont want their influence at the club lessening, and Mr Wright enjoys his sizeable wage from the club. Im fed up of being a Cas fan at the moment, and certainly dont feel like the club deserve any of my hard earned. There are frankly better things to spend it on.
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| It seems you listen to the average man on the street. Have you ever been to Meet the Directors' events? To dissect your post:
- RW and the BoD do have ambition for the club. In fact, having sat in the same room as Gill Taylor, owner of Aqumen Recruitment and Associate Director, there is no one more passionate and immensely proud of the club (and the fans) as she is. Martin Lea is unpaid in his role but still does a 200 mile around trip to do things at the club. As the CEO, RW is not the problem in reality. He is employed to manage the club and do his best with what finances he has available to him. The RFL said we were "well-run" in the last licence applications and we have never been in administration. He is very prudent and I'd rather him play the low-risk strategy at this moment in time. We cannot dice with our future. The issue is that we need more people on the BoD to support JF or to take over from JF. One club cannot rely on one man alone. If there's someone out there willing to invest cash into the club then please direct him to BoD.
- With regard to Mathers-gate, there are two sides to every story. Having listened to both the BoD and also Ian Millward's side of things, I'm inclined to believe their side of the story. Mathers wasn't forced out to an extent. He was informed that IM was running with Owen at full-back and Wakey had made an enquiry as to his availability. He still trained with the team in weights but wasn't involved in the tactical play for the very reason that we didn't want him going to one of our rivals and informing them of our plays etc.
- The difficulty about signing players is that promotion and relegation hampered us. We were the club that was seen most likely to head down or lose our licence. Players didn't want to sign unless they had high wages etc. The fact is that we had to pay higher wages to get players to sign for Cas. Hampered us in the short-term; it's not so much wages but the long contracts that is my bug-bear. We're going to see a shift somewhat over the course of the next few years with NRL players. Because of the exchange rate and higher salary cap, we're now seeing second grade players demanding more £££ to come across and top players are asking for ridiculous cash. A lot of clubs will shift towards junior players here in the UK and get the odd two or three Australians in the squad.
- You can feel lied to if you want but RW has never lied to any of us. He has always said a date or time based on the fact that he did expect things to happen only for other stakeholders to change things or things to happen outside of his control. The simple fact is that if it wasn't for the economy and the Council not removing the licence from Hickson's much sooner we would have probably been in the stadium by now. The economy reduced the value of WR so much so that it was getting to the stage where we were going to have to risk building half a stadium and the club didn't want to do this. We have an invaluable asset, which went down from a value of about £10m to about £5.5m through the economy alone. Along with this the demand for services and costs of building the stadium has soared. The initial figure was around £11m and it has now risen to around £15m. The maths don't add up. The chemical licence was only removed in late 2010 and so we couldn't do anything with our asset, WR, until then. Simple fact is that things have never been in the club's favour but they are working hard and continually working hard to get the stadium up and running.
- As for the last point, this is also untrue. People talk about Caddick but Caddick never actually made a firm offer to the club; showing interest is one thing - backing it up is another. If you're referring to the issue with Feisal, if you hear the rumours going around I can see why the BoD turned it down; it wasn't an investment - it was a loan.
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| Maybe that is the problem at Cas, for a large injection of cash what would an investor get in return from the current board of directors?.
Also if people come along with investment but don't like/trust the board they won't invest.
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| Will reserve judgement until Millward has been back for a few weeks but things certainly need to improve and sharpish. Three tough games coming up and we need something from at least two of them.
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| Fully, yes I have been listening to the man in the street. But the reason for this is it is pretty much the only information I get. The club continue to be terrible at communicating with the fans. I did say in my post that's how I have been made to feel. I am aware this may be unjustifiec, and said as much. But surely something is going wrong when fans feel like this, and I know I'm not alone. Surely a bit of openess will go a long way?
You seem to be in the know, but most fans aren't, this is why a lot of us feel like this.
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| We are still waiting for the club to tell us CP has left, Club is dire when it comes to dealing with the fans and no one can blame anyone else but the club.
RW is head of the club the buck stops with him.
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| Quote ="largeprop"Mr Donlan said after the match "the players started feeling sorry for themselves" maybe they should start feeling sorry for the fans who part with their hard earned cash every week.'"
If the players had demonstrated so much as an ounce of the pride and passion that the fans who were there did, we'd have won at a canter.
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| The key for me is the defence... We just haven't got one, especially down the wings.
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| Quote ="Disco"The key for me is the defence... We just haven't got one, especially down the wings.'"
I don't come on here very often and i haven't seen any of your game's, but does that have anything to do with Griffin?
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| Quote ="ry21"I don't come on here very often and i haven't seen any of your game's, but does that have anything to do with Griffin?'"
More to do with McGoldrick leaving Griffin having to defend 20 yards on his own.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"More to do with McGoldrick leaving Griffin having to defend 20 yards on his own.'"
Alright. Alway's thought he looked very good going forward but not so much defensively.
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| I know what you mean. So many young British centres are very exciting with the ball in hand, but as soon as they're asked to defend then they don't seem to impress anywhere near as much.
Could be they're just not interested in defending (where's the glory?) Or is it the way that the game is played now? Personally I think it's a little of both. Centres and wingers have the un-enviable task of usually having to do their tackling in either a one on one situation (unlike everyone stood in the middle of the pitch) or when the opposition has an overlap; which means the centre gambles much more than any other player on the pitch; often with dire consequences. The better regarded centres tend to benefit from a quicker, fitter sliding defence and one that doesn't have to carry weak half backs on their inside.
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| Quote ="binks"We are still waiting for the club to tell us CP has left, Club is dire when it comes to dealing with the fans and no one can blame anyone else but the club.
RW is head of the club the buck stops with him.'"
Just like with players, more often than not the club leave it to the team they are going to to announce it.
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| Quote ="Fully"Just like with players, more often than not the club leave it to the team they are going to to announce it.'"
I can't say I've ever seen that happen; the club the person is leaving will always put out a statement, even if it's not true.
I don't quite understand RW's reticence in this regard - he's shown that he can use the media pretty effectively when wants to, so it seems a shame to keep Cas fans in the dark over things that matter to them.
Reminds me of the Richardson era at WTW to be honest - we regularly got the mushroom treatment from Ted and co.
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| Cas have done it in the past - just as we have with other clubs. It's usually at the team's (who are signing the player) discretion, as to when the signing is announced/released. If it's going to come out elsewhere and it's happened, what's the point in us releasing a diatribe stating exactly the same thing? Especially when we are thin on the ground in the media department and it's on overload as it is. Waste of time and resources.
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