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| I know you guys hate us but deep down you would rather have us twice a season than quins or crusaders? When we play cas away and at home these are the games i look out for I love the excitement around the place of Wakefield/castleford before the game love the friendly banter love the rivalry we are the only country that punishes traditionlists for playing the sport they love which is traditional to our Citys/towns. The 26th will be a sad day maybe not for you on the outside but deep down it will.
My excitement when quins and crusaders play us is = 0
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"I know you guys hate us but deep down you would rather have us twice a season than quins or crusaders? When we play cas away and at home these are the games i look out for I love the excitement around the place of Wakefield/castleford before the game love the friendly banter love the rivalry we are the only country that punishes traditionlists for playing the sport they love which is traditional to our Citys/towns. The 26th will be a sad day maybe not for you on the outside but deep down it will.
My excitement when quins and crusaders play us is = 0'"
Don't assume that all Cas fans are the same mate. We don't know what will happen but if one of us does lose their license it will be a very sad day indeed. I agree with you 100% and it won't be the same if one of us isn't in Super League. When we went down, at least we knew it was in our own hands to get back up and only had a year out each time. I know a lot of fans still hold a grudge against Wakey, but having you guys home and away like you said is a game I certainly look out for. Here's wishing the best of luck to us both!
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| I for one would certainly rather have Cas and Wakey in SL than Crusaders or Harlequins.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"I know you guys hate us'"
You're wrong. Just because Wakey fans hate Cas, it doesn't mean the majority of Cas fans are anything other than indifferent when it comes to Wakey.
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| Quote ="casman2"I for one would certainly rather have Cas and Wakey in SL than Crusaders or Harlequins.'"
That get's my vote aswell!! The Cas v Wakey games are one of the highlights of the season for me.
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| In an ideal world where SL membership was a matter of fair and open competition I would prefer Cas and Wakey to survive this franchise round. However I believe that the HQ vision accomodates only one one of us from WMDC and all things being equal that would probably be Wakey as the city club. If you go this time you could well be back at our expense in the future wheraeas once we're down we're out for good. Therefore I have to admit that I hope you go into the championship and stay there. I wouldn't patronise any Wakey fan or insult their intelligence by saying otherwise.
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| I will never forget the goading by the Wakey fans at the end of the "million pound game" in 2006. Survival of the fittest then and the same now which means times-up for Wakey.
Granted - I would prefer Wakey in SL than Quins but only for the travel/banter.
Change your user name NGBC and I might reconsider.
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| Quote ="smoking monkey"In an ideal world where SL membership was a matter of fair and open competition I would prefer Cas and Wakey to survive this franchise round. However I believe that the HQ vision accomodates only one one of us from WMDC and all things being equal that would probably be Wakey as the city club. If you go this time you could well be back at our expense in the future wheraeas once we're down we're out for good. Therefore I have to admit that I hope you go into the championship and stay there. I wouldn't patronise any Wakey fan or insult their intelligence by saying otherwise.'"
I think you're absolutely right about the point in bold, and I've heard it said by others who are closely involved with HQ.
My feeling is that one way or the other, they'll get us in and you out, either now or in the the next round of franchises, then apply pressure for a merger, which I'd be happy with, providing we play in red, white & blue at NM and are called Wakefield.
For my money, your continued SL existence stunts our growth - we've got the capacity to develop into a Wigan, Warrington, Leeds kind of club - you haven't, and the sooner everyone accepts that, the better.
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| Quote ="bren2k"I think you're absolutely right about the point in bold, and I've heard it said by others who are closely involved with HQ.
My feeling is that one way or the other, they'll get us in and you out, either now or in the the next round of franchises, then apply pressure for a merger, which I'd be happy with, providing we play in red, white & blue at NM and are called Wakefield.
For my money, your continued SL existence stunts our growth - we've got the capacity to develop into a Wigan, Warrington, Leeds kind of club - you haven't, and the sooner everyone accepts that, the better.'"
That's spiteful to me.
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| Quote ="Gronk"Funniest post of the year right there.<snip>'"
Yes, I can tell how amused you are, by your spittle-flecked response and immediate sig creation. Touch a nerve?
Really though, if you think about it like a grown-up, two WMDC clubs in SL does stunt the growth of one or t'other; it's no surprise that I see it with a WTW bias, but it's hardly the most controversial conclusion to arrive at.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Really though, if you think about it like a grown-up, two WMDC clubs in SL does stunt the growth of one or t'other; it's no surprise that I see it with a WTW bias, but it's hardly the most controversial conclusion to arrive at.'"
So in that case then, Wakefield AND Featherstone for that matter MUST be holding Cas back because they average a higher attendance and bring in better juniors and without the other 2 clubs there, Cas would be averaging 10k and have ALL the juniors in the area
I mean just look how much the Hull clubs are holding each other back....
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| Quote ="bren2k"I think you're absolutely right about the point in bold, and I've heard it said by others who are closely involved with HQ.
My feeling is that one way or the other, they'll get us in and you out, either now or in the the next round of franchises, then apply pressure for a merger, which I'd be happy with, providing we play in red, white & blue at NM and are called Wakefield.
For my money, your continued SL existence stunts our growth - we've got the capacity to develop into a Wigan, Warrington, Leeds kind of club - you haven't, and the sooner everyone accepts that, the better.'"
Can I have some of what this guy is smoking please?
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| Quote ="Gronk!"So in that case then, Wakefield AND Featherstone for that matter MUST be holding Cas back because they average a higher attendance and bring in better juniors and without the other 2 clubs there, Cas would be averaging 10k and have ALL the juniors in the area
I mean just look how much the Hull clubs are holding each other back....'"
Good to see that you've calmed down a bit. You seem to be suggesting that the ideal solution would be for all three clubs to come together under the WTW brand, perhaps with Featherstone acting as a feeder club? It would take a decade or so for the supporters to get over it, but the RFL would be in seventh heaven.
Hull are the exception that prove the rule, in that they seem quite capable of sustaining two SL clubs; not the case here I'm afraid.
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| Does anyone in Wakefield actually realise that nobody south of Sheffield hasn't a clue where Wakefield is? And calling any merged team Castleford or Wakefield wouldn't raise an eyebrow except from people who are aware of Xscape Castleford-Leeds...
It's impressive trolling anyway. At least, I hope it's trolling and not indicative of how far education standards in Wakefield have fallen.
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| Rivalry aside you don't deserve to go down.
You've worked for 3 years to build a team and although this season has effectively been written off you're still in a much better position than Widnes who'll no doubt bring in Aussies and journey men.
The RFL are destroying everything the club has worked towards, the loss in sponsorship, attendances and players.
If the RFL decide to send you down don't write it off, NL1 is a great league with some quality sides who are more interested in RL than RFL politics (you also get a seaside day out at Blackpool!)
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| Quote ="Gazemous"Does anyone in Wakefield actually realise that nobody south of Sheffield hasn't a clue where Wakefield is? And calling any merged team Castleford or Wakefield wouldn't raise an eyebrow except from people who are aware of Xscape Castleford-Leeds...
It's impressive trolling anyway. At least, I hope it's trolling and not indicative of how far education standards in Wakefield have fallen.'"
Your careless use of multiple negation in the opening sentence has rendered its meaning equivocal; would you care to disambiguate?
Now, about those educational standards...
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| Quote ="bren2k"Your careless use of multiple negation in the opening sentence has rendered its meaning equivocal; would you care to disambiguate?
Now, about those educational standards...'"
Oh Dear...!!
These comments smack of an already beaten, bitter troller who is having problems accepting the inevitable. Which rock will you crawl under on the 26th ??
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| Some of the really reasonable debate and discussion loses it's apear when you have to trawl through the majority of some of the stuff on these threads. It all feels a bit childish and thats on both sides sometimes.
It's a shame really.
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| Quote ="mdean"Some of the really reasonable debate and discussion loses it's apear when you have to trawl through the majority of some of the stuff on these threads. It all feels a bit childish and thats on both sides sometimes.
It's a shame really.'"
I agree, its pathetic. The majority of these people are grown men and women
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| The only thing that will significant effect Cas is the loss of a local derby, the income it brings and our average attendance, all of which one could argue Widnes will not bring to the table instead.
Administration and stadium aside, Wakefield are stronger than Salford IMO in a number of areas. Nevertheless, the suggestion that Cas have been holding back is laughable especially given the fact that the majority of Wakefield cannot be bothered to get off their backsides to go watch Wakefield.
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| It seems everybody has discounted both of us getting the boot & Fax coming up. After Chase's 2 match ban nothing would surprise me on the 26th.
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| Quote ="mdean"Some of the really reasonable debate and discussion loses it's apear when you have to trawl through the majority of some of the stuff on these threads. It all feels a bit childish and thats on both sides sometimes.
It's a shame really.'"
Well said - I totally agree.
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