I know this is probably going over old ground, but on one of the threads on the wakey board the question of planning for the jungle has come up and I just wondered if any one on here new if the jungle has had planning permission granted to build houses or not. Posters on the wakey board think not as hicksons still holds its chemical licence but I thought I had read in the express about 12 months ago that planning had been granted but I could be wrong, does anyone know for sure either way?

i don’t know but some people on the wakefield website do seem to be the font of all knowledge with matters regarding cas and the new ground

, but I don’t know the answer to this one myself so I just thought I would ask.

No planning permission, its all down to the chemical licence being withdrawn, whats up with the wake mob and their fixation on us

they want to be more worried that the tax bill has been paid (24th jan was the deadline

)

The Chemical licence is still in place and nothing can happen with Hickson's or The Jungle until it has been revoked.

IIRC the land the company that owned Hickson's applied for outline planning permission but then hit financial trouble but sold it on to someone else who's determined to push forth with plans. If this can be clarified it would be good, please?

There's no fixation about what is or isn't happening re Cas at all.

The issue came up as another poster thought they had heard that the sale of BV & associated planning had fallen through. We know this to be incorrect as Wakey have already received a good deal of cash for BV, but I recalled seeing another thread a few months ago (not sure if it was your board, ours or the VT) about the withdrawal of a planning application for the Hickson's site and the knock-on (no pun intended) effects for the sale/redevelopment of The Jungle.

If the poster raising their question had got their "info" from someone who knows little about RL (let alone how much of a divide there is between your town & our city

when it comes to our wonderful sport) then I'm sure you can see how the confusion could have arisen.

As I said on the thread in question - I do hope that we both get our new grounds (with the Wakefield ground being completed first of course

) but I do get the distinct impression that Richard Wright is being a better spin doctor than Alistair Campbell and that many Cas fans would be very surprised with how far behind the true position is to the PR story given by RW at every occasion.

HTH

Hmmm, having only been on RLFANS for less than a year, you've obviously not read many old threads then. Anyway...


Yawn.

I take it you've just opened your 2009 calendar then!!!!

Oh yeah, still getting used to this 2010 business and thinking of 2008 as last year.

My point still stands though, that 12 months difference doesn't change it much at all.

I'd agree that in the past (particularly around the time of the Thornes Park fiasco) that there was an element of fixaton by Wakey fans about stadium progress at Cas, but IMO that is no longer the case.

Personally, I see both proposals at roughly equal stages of progress and that should mean that there can be a good amount of friendly banter between both sets of fans over the next 18 months or so as we will all want to get bragging rights at each stage of the build and of course over who's ground is completed first.

It's the future that matters now for both clubs - not the mudslinging and paranoia that some fans (of both sides) have had in the past.

You're clearly blind



Well they're not, obviously...



It's a shame that amongst that there is plenty of vitriol doing the rounds



Indeed, I wish we could just support each other, but some of the pathetic posts over the past few years from Wakey fans claiming to know everything about the Cas development, the Cas finances and EVERYTHING that's going on behind the scenes has turned a lot of Cas fans against the Wakey development, when all RL fans should be supporting BOTH grounds for the good of the local area and RL in this country.

Never mind all this journalism stuff you do, with such accuracy in hitting nails on the head you should be a joiner.

Never thought I'd have such a sig-worthy quote

RDM becomes another ill-informed troll, to be ignored.

It is rather strange how much some of them obsess about rw, be like us going on about walker failing with the snooker all the time.

I see you've missed the whole point of what I said then.



I can understand that any Cas fan will want to believe that everything RW spins out will come to fruition (I'd be the same if I had the misfortune

to be a Cas fan), but over the last 18 months or so my impression of his various statements on stadium progress has basically been a rehash of what he said in his previous release.

That said, RW does have slightly more credibility than Gordon Brown in relation to what he says in public. Then again, if you still believe what GB is saying then there really is no hope for you let alone the country.

I'd be delighted when RW can make definite statements about definite issues (like when a final design is known, detailed PP obtained, finances fully in place) and I'm sure Cas fans would be happy to work on the basis that "no news is good news" rather than have what is basically the same statement issued every couple of months.

Isn't irony wonderful.

If only we wakey fans then we could have plans for entirley new stadium every so often eh



One thing you are going to have to get used to with your new stadium is that there are going to be delays and not all target adtes will be met, as you have already experienced.

I do wish for wakeys sake that some of you put half as much effort into helping swag as you do discussing our stadium, if everytime a wakey fan gave his twopeneth about our stadium a brick was laid you could have been finished over a year ago. And then built another stadium on top.

As you will see from my detailed response below, I got the point very well. You were making an ill-informed attack on someone regarding a subject you clearly know little about in order to get a response. This is, indeed trolling.

Now, to your reply:



Another sweeping statement showing your complete ignorance of the facts. Read the posts on here. Many Cas fans DO NOT believe everything that RW says. The rather patronising "misfortune" interjection is pathetically juvenile and I am surprised that you would put this into a defence of your original childish outburst. Any statement of this type is, of course, trolling.



This sentence brings nothing in terms of information to a debate. It is merely an attempt to cause insult and offence. This is, undoubtedly, trolling. After all who was it who posted only a few days ago...



It's rather difficult to take this seriously in the light of your subsequent post!




Again, you have not been reading these forums and are showing your ignorance of the facts. Many Cas fans have bemoaned the lengthy times in between statements from RW, saying that no information is being given out and we need to be informed. The facts of the matter are that Cas are going ahead with the stadium project. A site has been allocated, initial outline planning permission has been granted, architects have been appointed to submit initial plans, funding is being sorted out, a partner in Waystone is in place. Whether Mr. Wright says anything or not does not alter these facts.

You have come on here, complained about RW giving no new information, and yet supplied no new information yourself. You have been insulting and patronising and you have made a crude attempt to try to cause people to start arguing with you.

I therefore stand by my original comment. You are indeed an ill-informed troll. Your reply to my first post only confirms this, I'm afraid. And, unfortunately, so will any response you try to make in a similar fashion.





Happy New Year!

Georgie Best on a Bloomer 1-0 RDM

Georgie Best on a Bloomer = Troll Pwner!