Just finished watching ENG NZ game thought the whole team were oustanding in defence! But shenton really stood out for me, IMO i reckon he wasnt far off hitting the 30 tackle mark!

As a Cas lad im proud Shenny and also glad we have him

17 apparently. I would have thought it was more

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Yes... Final here we come.

wow, i was far out! haha, it just seemed he seem to be around the tackle everytime haha.

But great performance never the less!

On 17 tackles?, is that all Shenton did?, sure he did more than that....must have been getting him mixed up with Tomkins through the beer goggles



Did'nt let anyone down again, think he will be ok for the final,not sure about Bridge on the other side,be tempted to play ellis there, reckon shenny will be up against jennings in the final

either way what an experience for him,can't wait for the final got my tickets already

the reason he only made 17 is because the stats only count the first 2 men into the tackle, if you watch the game again youl see shenton came in 3rd man to take the legs a few time last night, he did well, doesnt lok out of place in the international scene.

i just hopw he gets some more service next week.

I just want to say i though Tomkins and Eastmond were outstanding last night.

How many times have we said that in the last 3 games hes played.
I honestly cant see owt changing next week.

I agree. It seems that most of England attack seems to be shifted to the other wing, whereas the combination of Hall, Shenton, Ellis is more defensive.
It's working as well. The England left has been pretty resolute for the past two weeks.

Got my ticket for saturday can not wait on Mickey he did well he was looking after young Tompkins in defence and moved in a a player and to more defending than normal.

Eastmond is going to be outstanding in a few years, let's hope he stays in our code.

And though it pains me to say it, Tomkins is also going to be fantastic.

Shenny has been great all series - solid in defence. Has been a credit to the Cas youth system

Went to my 1st International game on Saturday at the Galpharm, and was dissapointed by a large group of fans around me constantly slagging Shenny off and even booing when his name was read out.
Saying he'd never get into any squad apart from the Cas squad and he has no right to be there at international level, i have no idea why!

I really had to bite my tounge on this one

There are some supporters that think if a back isnt scoring a try or creating one that he must be useless, these people are generally refered to as idiots and should be ignored.

Which club where they from?

Most from Huddersfield, and a few loiners. They also believed if Lee Smith had played instead of Shenny, there would have been many more trys and breaks.

shows what some people know about the game,the game is played 50% defence and shenny has been very good at it in all 3 tests,its a shame he hasnt had more chance with the ball cos we all know what he his capable of when given the space in which to run.

keep it up shenny!

i havent been a great follower of gb or england in the last decade but shennys inclusion has rekindled my love for international rugby and i will have attended everygame of the tri-nations in this country except the eng v aus game at wigan,i cant wait for saturday and shouting on one of our own stars to tri-nations glory.

They're probably right to be fair; Lee Smith's defence, commitment and discipline are no where near the levels that Shenny produces!!

Possibly another example of fans thinking that if you don't play for a top 4 team then you aren't good enough. Wouldn't be the first time and certainly wont be the last.

Loiners? well what do you expect far too many of them are quick to be critical of anything to do with cas. As for the hudds fans probably a fair few of them are still learning rl.

Lee smith cant score without the ball anymore than shenton can, smith would hvae also leaked a 2 or 3 tries and we would have lost the game.

Like i say these people are cearly idiots.

Absolutely spot on, if Lee Smith had played instead of Shenny, the turnstiles will have been open in our defence

Phil Clarke highlighted a period of play from the Aussie game in the build up to Saturdays game. In it he highlighted the fact that England made the wrong decision in attack. Shenton was wide open and had the ball gone to him he would have either gone in himself or been able to put his winger in.

Highlights a common thread in Englands play - they don't like giving the ball to Shenny!

How many of our tries have been scored by the backs?

vs France:
Smith, Myler 2, Sinfield, Hall, Briscoe

vs Australia:
Burgess, Ellis, Smith

vs NZ:
Eastmond, Fox 2

Out of 12 tries we've scored, 6 have come from the backs, 4 of them down the right wing, pretty much showing that the play hardly even comes down Englands left side. Two or three times the ball should have moved out left on Saturday and instead it went back to the middle. No conspiracy, I just think too many players are either backing themselves (hence 3 tries from the halves) or bringing it in towards the forwards and half-backs because that's the given gameplan - keep it tight (whereas Cas are more likely to shift the ball wider sooner).

Shenny will be playing RL next year dont know who for but will be playing RL Smith wont, so why have him picked, play who you feel needs the experiance now... and lets face it after the display he had with Mcguire he had to not be picked and after the Saturday performance by the other guys, he shouldnt get in for the final.

Stuff playing for experience, play the players who give you the best chance of winning.

For me, that means the same 17 as did for New Zealand, injury permitting.

i thought that was what i was sort of trying to imply in my post but yes i agree the 17 who won New Zealand deserve and earned their final appearance.

Really? you didnt know he's a cas player for next year?

Huddersfield fans have a cheek making commenting about centres arent they?

And as for leeds, they have signed an aussie hardly anybody has heard of to replace smith, their academy must be abit thin on three quarters.

Shenton & hall look to be forming a useful partnership down the left side, stick with it!