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| Quote ="deeHell"Without getting involved in arguments with specific individuals on here I just want to state what the facts are, not the facts through amber and black glasses.
Newmarket will eventually get built! ( 2 years from now, at a conservative estimate). Obviously this will be too late for Wakefield and will more than likely cost us a license to Widnes.
Glasshoughton will not in the near future get built, the money is just not there and you can't just magic millions £s of private money up! No amount of apperances from Dicke Wrong on Glasshoughton pit stack with hard hat and high vis jacket on will change that, you've used that card already. The RFL are know exactly what agenda they are working to, after previous broken promises from Cas you have failed to deliver on the stadium...FACT! You along with Wakey and Salford received a warning letter from the RFL, regarding fulfilling promises about stadium facilities. by promising then failing to deliver you have set yourselves up for the chop! Cas will lose there franchise to Halifax, remember you heard it here first. Widnes will be announced in a few weeks then Halifax will be announced in a couple of months, Wakey and Cas will be out in July! Enjoy your day in the sun! Obviously time will tell if I'm right but remember where you heard if first!
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I this the same Halifax that have run without a second team, or youth set up for the last license period, the same Halifax that only reached the average crowd figure by giving out free tickets to one match and increasing the attendance that day by near on 90%. The same Halifax where parts of the ground are shut due to to them being unsafe.
The fact is and Im not begrudging them this, is that Halifax poured all their money into the first team in the last few years and still only won one trophy, this applies to Barrow too, which is why in the RFLs eyes Widnes are the chosen ones, they have put in place solid structures, with youth development etc and still managed to win a trophy.
I would imagine that Cas have improved just about every area of their application this time round and to me seem to be steadily improving as a club, ok the stadium is still not sorted, but in reality we all know this is down to the Economy. To me Cas have demonstrated exactly what the franchises were brought in for, steady progression all this on the back of relegations. Wakefield on the other hand as business have been in steady decline or at best stayed stagnant, granted they now have a new owner, however I feel this will be too little too late, you can not really judge what Mr Glover can "deliver" in such a small amount of time, or indeed whether he could consistently deliver over the long term.
One thing is for sure the RFL will get stick who ever goes lol
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| Newmarket has gone to PI this means it could still be turned down there is no guarantee that it will ever be built - why would cas turn round and say yeah we will groundshare with Wakey as the outcome of PI will probably come out this time next year and if it is refused then that leaves us both without a new ground.
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| Which is why IMO we need to look at a share at GH.
We make up the shortfall in funding buy buying 50%. We share the ground- whichever division we're in.
All the while waiting on the PI/moving plans to the designated PI alternative site (as even if NM is turned down the PI HAS to offer an alternative site). When WT have a new site ready CT repay the 50% and WT move out.
CT say "thank you Mr Glover" and we go our separate ways.
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| Quote ="Bavaria Crown Tiger"How much money are Wakey putting into the newmarket project?'"
Nothing.
But that was a different business. The current one has far more business acumen and resources.
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| Quote ="G.Price Fan Club"Which is why IMO we need to look at a share at GH.
We make up the shortfall in funding buy buying 50%. We share the ground- whichever division we're in.
All the while waiting on the PI/moving plans to the designated PI alternative site (as even if NM is turned down the PI HAS to offer an alternative site). When WT have a new site ready CT repay the 50% and WT move out.
CT say "thank you Mr Glover" and we go our separate ways.
Everyone's happy.'"
For heavens sake give it a rest we don't want to share its not an option at GH. GH is for Cas it always has been
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"...give it a rest...'"
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| Quote ="G.Price Fan Club"If Mr Glover could put down 50% of the funding for J32 would you be so quick to turn him down?
Half red, white and blue & half black and amber- for the short term.
When NM comes through the red tape, is approved and built (maybe as late as 2015) WTW move out & CT repay the initial 50% & thus then own J32 in full with WTW playing from NM.
A sensible and realistic way forward for all?'"
Is this with both clubs in SL or with Wakey in the Championship? Its a serious question, I'm not trying to score any cheap points.
I can't see this suggestion working with both clubs in SL because in the summer one club is getting the boot and its inconceivable that the RFL would keep Wakey & give Cas the boot.
So would Wakey share GH as a Championship side whilst Cas were in SL?
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| Wheldon Road - (yes, it's still that for me), sold for £50m - well done Cas - new ground by 2013!
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| Quote ="desmond decker"cominoweb.wakefield.gov.uk/Planning/StreamDocPage/obj.pdf?DocNo=4908566&PageNo=1&content=obj.pdf'"
The number of parking spaces is appropriate for a development of this size.
Cas are confident that planning will go through still.
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| At the end of the day if it doesn't happen for us and don't get a franchise we still own where we play at least.
They can't say that up the road(new or old ground),and how many others in S.L can?
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| Quote At the end of the day if it doesn't happen for us and don't get a franchise we still own where we play at least.
They can't say that up the road(new or old ground),and how many others in S.L can?
At the end of the day if it doesn't happen for us and don't get a franchise we still own where we play at least.
They can't say that up the road(new or old ground),and how many others in S.L can?
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That is exactly how i see it too, yeah the news yesterday will be great if it happens but if it doesn't we've still got 'darn't lane' and it may not be a shiney stadium but it has history how many grounds can boast of kids been given the day of school to go see their teams play against international teams, go back many years when people were packed in like sardines (thanks to health and safety this will never happen again) however this is history not something that money can buy
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| Yeah right. We have another option, but we aren't going to tell anyone where it is. No one will object and it's not green belt. Oh and would be ready at the same time as Cas' ground. I can smell something.
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| He forgot to mention where the money will come from. Something the Wakey fans (and some Cas) fans seem to be obsessed about with Cas Tigers.
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| I wonder what happened to 'Newmarket is the only site we can build on' and 'Leeds Council will have to suggest somewhere else for us to build a stadium'. Well, I suggest they go build it at Plan B.
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| Quote ="Fully"I wonder what happened to 'Newmarket is the only site we can build on' and 'Leeds Council will have to suggest somewhere else for us to build a stadium'. Well, I suggest they go build it at Plan B.'"
Could this be the first sign that Yorkcourt may be doing the deed?
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This new fella at Wakey is starting to remind me of Hicks & Gillette who bought Liverpool FC. Came in spouting their grand plans which included a revised new stadium design (the existing new stadium plans not being grand enough for them!) and even famously said "there'll be a spade in the ground in 50 days". Took a bit of time but eventually people realised they were empty promises!
Most interesting point about that article is the confirmation that they plan to play at Belle View in 2012 and that this will be in the franchise application. The one area where they could possibly get a tick ahead of Cas was by playing in a temporary stadium such as Oakwell but they've decided to give that up...
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Most interesting point about that article is the confirmation that they plan to play at Belle View in 2012 and that this will be in the franchise application. The one area where they could possibly get a tick ahead of Cas was by playing in a temporary stadium such as Oakwell but they've decided to give that up...
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| [size=150Quote ="Cecil B"This new fella at Wakey is starting to remind me of Hicks & Gillette who bought Liverpool FC. Came in spouting their grand plans which included a revised new stadium design (the existing new stadium plans not being grand enough for them!) and even famously said "there'll be a spade in the ground in 50 days". Took a bit of time but eventually people realised they were empty promises![/size
Most interesting point about that article is the confirmation that they plan to play at Belle View in 2012 and that this will be in the franchise application. The one area where they could possibly get a tick ahead of Cas was by playing in a temporary stadium such as Oakwell but they've decided to give that up...'"
The irony sorry but whatever happens about the franchise and by the way I am past caring if its us its us so what we wont be relegated but pushed out as before, you have been out for a season and came back. But going back to the post and the Irony I know we all get blurred vision about our clubs but wake up and smell the coffee about your development it aint happening any time soon if at all.
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Whatever fella. Looks a lot more likely to happen than Newmarket right now...
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"[size=150The irony sorry but whatever happens about the franchise and by the way I am past caring if its us its us so what we wont be relegated but pushed out as before, you have been out for a season and came back. But going back to the post and the Irony I know we all get blurred vision about our clubs but wake up and smell the coffee about your development it aint happening any time soon if at all.'"
Bit early to start on the bitter isn't it?
The irony is you lot STILL think it wont happen, it's either a mass head in the sand moment in Wakey or just a MASSIVE inferiority complex because your more successful, profitable neighbours will be playing SL next year while you get to go to Barrow & Fev.
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| Is there really any need for all this? Why don't people just keep their eyes in their own back garden as opposed to looking over the fence and pouring scorn on anything your neighbour is trying to do. Personally I'd wait a while before popping any corks, it's far from over!
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