Well said!

Ah so not only is the stadium never going to happen but the best player is leaving as well? And you expect people to believe you despite offering noo evidence? You are a troll who know jack and are just here to gloat because your badly run club is now in bed with the RFL.

I rest my case.

Back on track for a shortwhile if we can please!!!

I'm loving the wording of the RFL's statement on this.......a 'Predatory approach'. It makes it sound like, if they hadn't stepped in someone could have been heading home from a game one night with the lease in their back pocket and a 'Predator' could have jumped out and stolen it from them, or pick pocketed them without them knowing!

I'm absolutely flabbergasted that some Bulls fans have already adopted an arrogant "I'm alright jack" stance on this issue; given that they've just been bailed out of the shiz by the sports governing body, using money that comes from all stakeholders (all of us and our clubs) one would expect them to show a little more humility.

Here's an interesting one - how did the RFL not become aware of their plight during the license application process, given the robust scrutiny that did reveal, for example, the extent of the Crusaders problems? I'm not suggesting that the RFL actually knew all about this situation when the applications were considered and what they intended to do about it, so awarded an inexplicable 'B' grade to a stadium that is essentially a landfill site, to avoid the embarassment of having to issue the same warning to the Bulls about improving a stadium that they actually owned themselves. Or maybe I am.

The whole thing stinks but since the RFL is much like FIFA, they don't have to worry about answering to anyone.

I agree that the whole thing is very dubious but to be honest I feel that RL as a sport comes out stronger as the rent money that was going out of the game, will now be going to Redhall and from there (hopefully) into developing grass roots RL. It does present a conflict of interest with Bradford but surely a conflict of interest is better than the prospect of losing about 10'000 Spectators from the sport?

Like I say it's a shame they won't/can't do it for everyone, but the reality is Bradford Bulls (the brand) is too important to the game for the RFL to risk them becoming homeless.

....and there lies the problem.

Maybe it was 7 or 8 years ago - it certainly isn't now.

I also wish Bradford all the best, however at what point would they have become homeless? The Bulls own the lease, and it could hardly be sold to the 'Approaching Predator' without them knowing. Surely they wouldn't sell it without securing somewhere to play first.

I just wish that the RFL could be honest and call it, what it is.....a bail out!

Good points on the whole.

Just the last point though, The RFL dont have a duty to do anything for any club. And they certainly haven't done anything for the Bulls here, IMO. I believe that the RFL have their own interests at heart here(Obviously the game) and have moved to secure themselves a site within a central location of the RL heartland and a site with possibly some development potential. It just so happens that it's Bradfords site and we are now looked on as receiving preferential treatment from the RFL. IMO, In reality I believe that this deal has been done with both parties own interests at heart and it isnt a case of one helping the other out due to favouritism.

I dont think tangibly this changes much, but governing bodies integrity is as much about what you are seen to do that what you actually do. Imagine for example if the FA had bought Elland Road and rented it back to Leeds which saved them going into administration to save them from predatory businesses whom did prey on them, saved them 15 points deduction and resulted in someone else being relegated - there would have been hell on and rightly.

So, essentially this, although tangibly is a business decision, it does look stinky. The RFL have not granted the Bulls a license forever per-se, but I find it impossible to think that a criteria will be imposed on licensing applications that the RFL adjudicate upon and Bradford be excluded, it is a huge conflict of interests???? example:
RFL makes a rule that all grounds to have 10 flags and red flag poles.
Bulls ask their Landlords to have 10 flags and red flag poles
Landlord says no - Bulls go to court and cry cheat - RIGHTLY.
Landlord says yes - everyone else thinks it is a fix and the RFL sucking it's own. RIGHTLY

Can't win when you put yourself in this situation no matter how humble and worldly the reasons - I am no business or legal expert, but even I can see this is poor management and leadership.

No it hasn't.

I am not one for charity work, but here it is - come and get me RFL and Richard Lewis - I will go part time in my job and work FREE for the RFL one day a week as a consultant.
This is not a stunt, I am a specialist manager, shaper and creater of business ideas, oh and lapsed qualified RFL SL level Club Coach! - Genuinely if Red Hall contact me I will mentor the management team Free Of Charge a day a week, change the Performance Review structure and give business advice and I will take not one bean for it.
I only have qualifications, track record, experience, talent, free market skills, common sense, integrity and the ability to impart values and behaviours to others and love for a sport I was never talented enough to be able to play at the highest level, so in fairness probably I am not elligible.

All joking aside, I will genuinely offer management consultancy for free, gratis and at my own expense if asked.... I think some of my posts on here about brand values and ethics speak for themselves, this is on the level.

I look forward to my trip to odsal this season, to stand outside, no way will they get my money


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Yes it has Fully.
Its a 'fact'.

A Cas fan in a pub told him which makes it a fact. Honestly!

The Bulls fans just don't get it do they? Its not the fact that they sold the lease its who bought it,the RFL shouldn't have touched it with a bargepole its put them in a very difficult position and made our game look corrupt again. Hopefully they may have to see sense and take stadia out of the franchise rules now, but somehow i don't think that will ever happen.

We don't need it, we've got the RFL's.

Again, very amusing and exactly the type of attitude that will ensure your club loses a significant amount of respect and affection amongst the fans of other clubs; you've been bailed out by the RFL using money levied from members clubs and their fans - show a bit of humility.

Like I care, you can all hate us for as much as you think you might know or what you believe.
Why don't you boycott Odsal whilst crying a river or something?

Cheeky xx

Indeed it seems we are united on this. Though it's about time all RL fans marched on the RFL and said enough. This game is nothing without supporters and they treat us like idiots and with contempt for our wishes. Iconic stadium?!! Do me a favour; it's a terraced quarry fit only to be consigned to the annals of history. Wembley, Highbury, Roker Park etc etc...any less iconic? Times move on. If the RFL really mean that they are idiots. If they think we believe they mean that, they are bare faced idiots. Next few weeks gonna be interesting on this one. We better be careful though...it may be a cunning plan to get us liking each other and wanting to merge

by the size of your crowds,it looks like you boycott your home games as well

Oh dear. Is that honestly the best you could do? Bless ya. I'd give up while you still think your ahead.

Id never had Bulls fans as being arrogant but recent events have proved me wrong

It appears that each clubs forum has a resident Richardhead that they nominate to come across and annoy us at different times. It looks like we have been honoured with Roger the Richardhead from the Dulls. Of course some clubs have far more representatives than others