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| Quote ="Gronk!"They aren't training for Millward because of the simple fact they don't respect him and he ripped the dressing room to shreds on day 1 with what he did to Mathers who was one of the popular players within the dressing room.'"
I think Millward and Cas need to tread carefully with the Mathers situation. The justification given was that he saw Owen as his fullback.....if he does start playing Brierley, or someone else at fullback next year it makes a mockery of his reason/excuse for pushing Mathers out. In any other workplace you'd be strung up for that type of behavior.....all sorts of phrases like constructive dismissal come to mind!
In regards to Clark, everything suggests that it is Clark himself who is asking permission for a transfer. As a young lad who's only recently signed the contract it basically shows that he is either unhappy, or something isn't quite what it seemed it would be at the time of signing the contract....and we could spend all day speculating the many things that could be at Cas at the moment!
Just imagine it yourself, if you wanted to leave your job and the boss started waving your contract in front of your nose and saying that you can't leave...or else!! It wouldn't make you want to put any extra effort in for that company would it?
It's time for someone at the club to come clean and say why he wants to leave.
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| You are doing worse than expected but its not that much of a surprise your where you are.
You finished 9th last season. 8th was the best you could have hoped for imo looking at the squads in SL this season. Wakey were always going to improve on last year. Rangi Chase was never going to be as good as last season, Cas rarely play well if Rangi doesnt play well, that needs to be addressed. A couple of wins and you could be 10th similar to last seasons position.
Judging by last season and being in the playoffs for virtually the entire season before falling away, being top at one point, out playing leeds in the CC semi and having your star player win MoS, I think alot of cas fans were expecting too much this year.
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| I personally think that there's been a lot of changes at Cas in a relatively short space of time. When Daryl signed his new contract he was playing for a coach he had played under for many years and there was still the significant chance that he would shortly be playing in a brand new stadium that would bring many benefits.
A new coach has come in, who is still trying unsuccessfully to get the players working to his methods, and with the possibility of the new stadium diminishing as every month goes by Daryl possibly feels that things are heading in the wrong direction. So if a club like Warrington comes forward with a good offer you are going to seriously consider that offer.
I can see that we have not heard the last of this one and there will possibly be more to follow.
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| Ponterflfan - I think you've got it spot on there! As fans we all get frustrated with all the spin, delays and endless backtracking on promises. If all this was happening or 'not happening' at my place of work, I'd probably be thinking...what on earth am I doing at this place??
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| Daryll Clarke is the best up and coming 9 in the country without a doubt and would be starting 9 at any club other than Saints IMO
Quite a bold move by Clarke in handing in a transfer IMO as his sole scource of income at present is by being paid by the Tigers is it not?
He's obviously not too worried about being left without his current income streams then should no SL / NRL clubs be interested in him then ?
Obviously he has been made an offer that he can't refuse but as he is under a long term contract at your club then at least you should receive some decent compensation just like the Bulls will for Bateman
If true then the Wolves supremo Moran is intent on BUYING all the best talented junior players regardless if they're under contract or not because he can afford it
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| Quote ="kinleycat"Not sure this is the case, I was talking to the son of a former cas player yesterday, and he reckons its more the attitude of the players.
Millward is making them train harder and for longer, and seems to be meeting with some resistance from some of the more established players.
One name mentioned was Rangi Chase who apparently is the worst trainer at the club.
Maybe if he can clear out the non conformists he may get the club back on track??'"
Chase does a lot of his training at Xscape....
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| Quote ="cushler"Chase does a lot of his training at Xscape....
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| Quote ="Gronk!"=#FF0000What were you told yesterday? I've had enough of your trolling now, you had your warning and ignored it.'"
Can't stand him Gronk - but for once, he makes a valid point!
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| Quote ="Towns88"Can't stand him Gronk - but for once, he makes a valid point!'"
It's also wildly off topic and he was warned about being off-topic and trolling yesterday - both of which he's just done.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"It's also wildly off topic and he was warned about being off-topic and trolling yesterday - both of which he's just done.'"
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| Why do players sign these long contracts if they are not going to stick too them. From what I have seen of him and been told by mates at work he is one of the best up and coming 9 in S/L and Cas need to build a team around these type of players lets hope he doesn't throw the teddy out
As for the other rumour let him go cash in on him and bring some quality in that wants to train and work hard
You want to call your fullback back from Leigh get him in now you have nothing to loose this season he look fast and v good from what I saw last night
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| Quote ="jtfev"Why do players sign these long contracts if they are not going to stick too them. '"
Because he's yet another naive young man using an unlicensed agent who's probably been touting him out to other teams and whispering in his ear what he can get him at other teams.
Quote ="jtfev"You want to call your fullback back from Leigh get him in now you have nothing to loose this season he look fast and v good from what I saw last night'"
He's looked good for 3 years now, he should be in the first team ahead of at least 2 current players.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"=#FF0000What were you told yesterday? I've had enough of your trolling now, you had your warning and ignored it.'"
You told me nothing yesterday,but I am more than happy to meet you to let you have you put your point across keyboard warrior.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"He's looked good for 3 years now, he should be in the first team ahead of at least 2 current players.'"
I'm sure he would be in the team every week at present if he wasn't injured.
My worry is that with the way results and performances are at the moment it is obvious that other players are not enjoying playing under Basil. If your not happy at work then you start to look elsewhere, its only natural.
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| Quote ="Ponterflfan"I'm sure he would be in the team every week at present if he wasn't injured.'"
Ryan Brierley not Daryl Clark
Quote ="Ponterflfan"My worry is that with the way results and performances are at the moment it is obvious that other players are not enjoying playing under Basil. If your not happy at work then you start to look elsewhere, its only natural.'"
That's the problem, Basil needs to go because Clark & co are more important to the club.
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| Sorry, thought we were still on Daryl.
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| Quote ="The Biffs Back"Daryll Clarke is the best up and coming 9 in the country without a doubt and would be starting 9 at any club other than Saints IMO
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I'd take Aiton over Clark, but in terms on English hookers, I agree only Roby is better.
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| Absolutely gutted by this news. What on earth is happening down the lane? None of the players seem to have any respect for Basil so obviously something is not right with him, his coaching/training methods, or his people skills. I don't know if someone has been bending Clark's ear or if he is just unhappy but I think he is the best local player we have seen down here in many a year, and I would be absolutely gutted if he went.
At the end of the day, if he has set his sights on a transfer and doesn't want to be here anymore, then I think it will have to happen but I really hope it doesn't.
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| Something amiss. Chase out in loft last night absolutely paggered. Apparently been dropped for disciplinary reasons tomorrow according to Peter smith of yep on twitter.
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| Chase is such a prat
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| My brother is friends with Adam Milner as they played together at Stanley and he got told that Huddersfield offered Cas Luke Robinson,Lee Gilmour and someone else in exchange for Daz Clark
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| In League Express Clark states his reasons to want away. He wants to play in a top 4 side (Warrington ? or Hudds ?) with the chance of winning SL or CC. He also isn't happy that he has been overlooked for the England Knights team and intimates that playing with Cas Tigers has stiffled this.
I'd personally let him go if the price is right. He has made his intentions clear.
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| Quote ="The Biffs Back"=#FF0000Daryll Clarke is the best up and coming 9 in the country without a doubt and would be starting 9 at any club other than Saints IMO
Quite a bold move by Clarke in handing in a transfer IMO as his sole scource of income at present is by being paid by the Tigers is it not?
He's obviously not too worried about being left without his current income streams then should no SL / NRL clubs be interested in him then ?
Obviously he has been made an offer that he can't refuse but as he is under a long term contract at your club then at least you should receive some decent compensation just like the Bulls will for Bateman
If true then the Wolves supremo Moran is intent on BUYING all the best talented junior players regardless if they're under contract or not because he can afford it'"
He wouldnt start ahead of M.Monas at wire , McIlorum at wigan , or even Houghton at Hull.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"In League Express Clark states his reasons to want away. He wants to play in a top 4 side (Warrington ? or Hudds ?) with the chance of winning SL or CC. He also isn't happy that he has been overlooked for the England Knights team and intimates that playing with Cas Tigers has stiffled this.
I'd personally let him go if the price is right. He has made his intentions clear.'"
Sounds a bit like the position Shenton claimed to find himself in a while back...(other than the England selection). Do we flog Clark....and then buy him back again when he realizes the grass ain't that much greener, just like we've done with Shenton?
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