Couldn't agree more

Thought players as members of the RFL have a code of conduct to follow on and off the field and any terms broken could be punished if the RFL think it's bad enough. Just look at the NRL if you fart the wrong way it's the NRL governing body that tears up your contract as well as the club. Is that not the same here? If not maybe one too many off field problems should open the eyes of the RFL and look at some off the field rules on discipline.

What's the difference between Aspinwall and Owen? This isn't the first incident Richard Owen has been involved in.

At the moment the differences are: is this is only an allegation and nobody has clarity on the reality of this situation, timing, so close to Aspi's other misdemeanors and the relative ages of the players involved. RO might have been involved in other alledged things, but not convictions at the same level.

Extremely well said - I couldn't agree more.

Nothing wrong as such with players going out and enjoying themselves (in moderation) but would have to question Owen's choice of the location (Pontefract) at that time of year.

I am curious to know who his mates where as well on this night out...where they players at the club or at another club(s)?

Think most people know but are wisely keeping stum.

Was rather hoping for some news and output today on the whole debacle, be nice to make this uncertainty go away.

Quote ="mdean"Was rather hoping for some news and output today on the whole debacle, be nice to make this uncertainty go away.'" Like this? www.castigers.com/article.php?id=1984

Quote ="mdean"Was rather hoping for some news and output today on the whole debacle, be nice to make this uncertainty go away.'" Like this? www.castigers.com/article.php?id=1984

So theres two seperate incidents?

Does all this revolve around one incident,or two separate ones?

Looks like it doesn't it, leave it to Cas to open up something else to the world

do u mean this year also

Not necessarily: there's a breach of the club code of conduct, which he's put his hand up for, and a police investigation, which may result in charges or not. But both could be related. Or not. ATM, we just don't know.

And still people are making libelous comments without foundation. The article in the YEP does not confirm what Owen's involvement was and what he has done? Some people portraying that information as fact without any evidence to support it. From what we know from that article is that Owen was involved in an altercation and was released on bail pending further investigation on suspicion of assault (bear in mind assault could be as small as spitting at someone). Also note the key word: 'suspicion'.

I think people should take heed, keep powder dry and await full facts before continuing to comment on a matter they know absolutely zilch about like the rest of us.

Where?

I would suggest it may be 2 matters involving the 1 incident.
The Santagate occurred on Boxing Day morning.Owen was due to play in the game against Bradford that day.
In this weeks RLE Millward is quoted as saying,''Ritchie Owen has a back injury,but he'll be back in action within a couple of weeks,ready for the friendly with Huddersfield on Friday 13th January.''
This was to account for his absence.
The breach of club code of practice would perhaps be his attendance on the streets of Pontefract drinking or otherwise at whatever o'clock so close to a game.

To assist - the player from the 15 a side sport,who was in a relationship with Kelly Brook,gave an excuse,after being seen in a nightclub on the day of a game,of handing tickets for the game to a friend who was inside the nightclub.

I am uncertain if the same excuse will work in this matter.

Few pages back referring to the man with a broken jaw.

Quote ="SCR-SeaDiver"I would suggest it may be 2 matters involving the 1 incident. The Santagate occurred on Boxing Day morning.Owen was due to play in the game against Bradford that day. In this weeks RLE Millward is quoted as saying,''Ritchie Owen has a back injury,but he'll be back in action within a couple of weeks,ready for the friendly with Huddersfield on Friday 13th January.'' This was to account for his absence. The breach of club code of practice would perhaps be his attendance on the streets of Pontefract drinking or otherwise at whatever o'clock so close to a game. To assist - the player from the 15 a side sport,who was in a relationship with Kelly Brook,gave an excuse,after being seen in a nightclub on the day of a game,of handing tickets for the game to a friend who was inside the nightclub. I am uncertain if the same excuse will work in this matter.'" Richie Owen was announced as being out with a back injury before any incidents took place i.e. www.castigers.com/article.php?id=1963 That rules out your conspiracy theories and incorrect comments.

Quote ="SCR-SeaDiver"I would suggest it may be 2 matters involving the 1 incident. The Santagate occurred on Boxing Day morning.Owen was due to play in the game against Bradford that day. In this weeks RLE Millward is quoted as saying,''Ritchie Owen has a back injury,but he'll be back in action within a couple of weeks,ready for the friendly with Huddersfield on Friday 13th January.'' This was to account for his absence. The breach of club code of practice would perhaps be his attendance on the streets of Pontefract drinking or otherwise at whatever o'clock so close to a game. To assist - the player from the 15 a side sport,who was in a relationship with Kelly Brook,gave an excuse,after being seen in a nightclub on the day of a game,of handing tickets for the game to a friend who was inside the nightclub. I am uncertain if the same excuse will work in this matter.'" Richie Owen was announced as being out with a back injury before any incidents took place i.e. www.castigers.com/article.php?id=1963 That rules out your conspiracy theories and incorrect comments.

Whether it is one incident or two the statement could have been worded better to remove any doubt either way.

The wording of the statement seems fair enough to me, mate.

Major Jizz-fest over on the Wakey board. All things concerning RO and Probiz sponsorship (with added negativity) on there folks.

Daft lad goes out and has a few beers and gets into a scuffle shocker .
The above comment is not aimed at the current subject of this thread .

BUT .

How many of the people that are lining up to cast stones at Cas and Mr Owen if the rumours are even anywhere close to being true are guilty of such behaviour themselves ?

I am . Therefore I will not (as much as I would love to ) be involving myself in and slating of either the club or the player .

It ain't uncommon for lads to get involved in a fracas on nights out /take drugs / have an affair/ drink and drive / etc etc etc. There must be thousands of such incidents every night of the week . Some happen to involve people who are considered to be public figures .

Yes they should know better , but so should your average Joe .

We all make mistakes . I have made some of biblical proportion in my life .

Some people really need to lose their holier than thou attitude . The fall from those high horses can be very painful so I hear .

Ditto regarding Hull .



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In fairness its not all of them mostly just the usual suspects, some wakey posters are being objective.










Lets not have another slanging match just because [ua few[/u of the wakefield fans are eaten up by bitterness towards us. We have some that are just as bad.