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| that would be me and i havent been proven wrong yet i said waterhouse 12 weeks before announced you can scroll back through the wire board if you want and others and if you scroll back i said Rangi was not coming and was just a wild rumour but now have heard it from inside the club and will be announced shortly but will wait and see
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| Quote ="wolfinwidnes"that would be me and i havent been proven wrong yet i said waterhouse 12 weeks before announced you can scroll back through the wire board if you want and others and if you scroll back i said Rangi was not coming and was just a wild rumour but now have heard it from inside the club and will be announced shortly but will wait and see'"
Does the salary cap mean anything to you guys?.
Also,Half backs at Warrington next season then...Briers,Myler,Ratchford, Monaghan & Chase?
Somebody will have to leave or its all Bolloxs!
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| Quote ="duke street 10"Does the salary cap mean anything to you guys?.
Somebody will have to leave or its all Bolloxs!'"
what... Like king, Anderson and Clarke?
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"what... Like king, Anderson and Clarke?'"
I don't think the comment refers to the salary cap, but more to the fact that you can only play 2 half-backs. And I thought you had filled your quota for next season?
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| Rangi wont be going anywhere, has probably been sold the potential for next season with Ian Millward coming in. I expect Castleford to be a force next season.
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| Quote ="centralparkforever"Rangi wont be going anywhere, has probably been sold the potential for next season with Ian Millward coming in. I expect Castleford to be a force next season.'"
That's more than Cas fans expect (although Rangi has signed a contract to 2015 )
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"That's more than Cas fans expect (although Rangi has signed a contract to 2015
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Thought they were unlucky tonight, felt a little sorry for Terry Matterson after the game with his head in his hands. Would have loved to have met Castleford at Wembley instead instead of those Whining Winos.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"I don't think the comment refers to the salary cap, but more to the fact that you can only play 2 half-backs. And I thought you had filled your quota for next season?'"
We have a quota spot left.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"We have a quota spot left.'"
Which of Hodgson, Joel Monaghan, Michael Monaghan or Waterhouse doesn't count? Thought out-and-out quota spots was set at 4 next season (although I confess I don't know all the complexities).
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Which of Hodgson, Joel Monaghan, Michael Monaghan or Waterhouse doesn't count? Thought out-and-out quota spots was set at 4 next season (although I confess I don't know all the complexities).'"
I think you are right, has been cut from 5 to 4 for next season.
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| Quote ="centralparkforever"I think you are right, has been cut from 5 to 4 for next season.'"
I'm sure it has, hence Wigan only signing Hoffman for one season as they already had 4 quota players contracted for 2012.
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| - a minimum of 8 Club Trained Players or Academy Juniors working towards that classification;
- a maximum of 5 players who satisfy none of the definitions of Club Trained, Federation Trained or are working towards either classification;
- a maximum of 5 Overseas Quota players;
- the remainder being made up of Club Trained, Federation Trained Players or Academy Juniors working towards either classification
I'm pretty sure that's how it works.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"- a minimum of 8 Club Trained Players or Academy Juniors working towards that classification;
- a maximum of 5 players who satisfy none of the definitions of Club Trained, Federation Trained or are working towards either classification;
- a maximum of 5 Overseas Quota players;
- the remainder being made up of Club Trained, Federation Trained Players or Academy Juniors working towards either classification
I'm pretty sure that's how it works.'"
That is how if works for 2011. However, I'm pretty sure that the maximum overseas quota players reduces from 5 to 4 next year. I remember this being stated when Wigan signed the three Melbourne players, and stated that they were disappointed not to give Hoffman a longer contract but were unable to due to the reduction of overseas quota players allowed in 2012.
I've also been trying to think of any clubs with 5 overseas quota players signed for next season to disprove my theory but I'm struggling on that one too (although I'm sure HKR will have 13).
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| Pretty sure Hoffman only wanted a 1 year contract... wigan pulled out all the stops to get him to stay another year.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"Pretty sure Hoffman only wanted a 1 year contract... wigan pulled out all the stops to get him to stay another year.'"
Can you, or anyone else, think of a club with 5 overseas quota players signed for 2012 (apart from HKR)?
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| Hull fc...mckinnon, heremia, seymour, omeley, obst
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Can you, or anyone else, think of a club with 5 overseas quota players signed for 2012 (apart from HKR)?'"
Wakey?
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| Quote ="duke street 10"Does the salary cap mean anything to you guys?.
Also,Half backs at Warrington next season then...Briers,Myler,Ratchford, Monaghan & Chase?
Somebody will have to leave or its all Bolloxs!'"
right in regards to salary cap we have lost 2 big hitters
king (highest paid player in superleague)
Louis anderson (was on a fair bit)
we have also released
jon clarke (10 year player on a decent wage)
also i am sure there is a couple more on way out!
in regards to halfbacks
fair play Briers and myler yes half backs
unless you have lived abroad nd not watched rugby ever Monoghan is a hooker!
and Ratch is being brought in to be a full back to relieve hodgson
i believe rangi being brought in to cover briers or myler also i think he would make a good hooker if you look at his skill set good quick feet good distribution he could cover quite a few positions
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| Apparently you have offered Morrison a 1 year deal along with quins and one other unamed club.
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| Quote ="tttiger"Cas keep saying our commercial dept is so super and bringing in record sponsorship - yet we cant compete in the player (or coach) signing market and have lost another kid due to poor contract offers.
Our crowds and season tickets sales are solid and improving , we had a good cup run- so why are cas so far adrift of clubs like , hudds , quinns , hull kr and now widnes ?? [uthe only thing I can think of is that they generate better income via sponsorship , marketing and corporate initiatives[/u.'"
Presume you've not read the Superleague franchise summaries?
Huddersfield, Quins & Hull KR were all noted as being reliant on the financial support of their board or chairman/CEO whilst Cas were described as a well run self sustaining club.
In other words Cas only spend money they generate whereas the others receive handouts from people associated with their club.
I've said it before but until we move into the new stadium which will massively increase our income streams we can't compete with other clubs within SL. This was another factor the RFL recognised in their summary of Cas' franchise application.
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| Let's say we did sell Chase to the Wire, what would we want in return, we value him at 500k, but they will not pay that, so it would have to be a cash plus players deal, I think I would settle for 350k in cash and a player like Chris Bridge or Simon Grix, or maybe both. We then get 1 or 2 decent players in positions we need to strengthen plus cash in the bank, this is just a shot in the dark, but could Todd Carney be tempted with that kind of money at our disposal.
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| Quote ="ritz"Hull fc...mckinnon, heremia, seymour, omeley, obst'"
Heremia is exempt.
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| Quote ="inside man"Apparently you have offered Morrison a 1 year deal along with quins and one other unamed club.'"
Bradford?
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| Quote ="barnsley bill"Let's say we did sell Chase to the Wire, what would we want in return, we value him at 500k, but they will not pay that, so it would have to be a cash plus players deal, I think I would settle for 350k in cash and a player like Chris Bridge or Simon Grix, or maybe both. We then get 1 or 2 decent players in positions we need to strengthen plus cash in the bank, this is just a shot in the dark, but could Todd Carney be tempted with that kind of money at our disposal.'"
If we were to accept less than £500k, say the £350k you've said, I would want at least 4 players in return.
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| Quote ="barnsley bill"Let's say we did sell Chase to the Wire, what would we want in return, we value him at 500k, but they will not pay that, so it would have to be a cash plus players deal, I think I would settle for 350k in cash and a player like Chris Bridge or Simon Grix, or maybe both. We then get 1 or 2 decent players in positions we need to strengthen plus cash in the bank, this is just a shot in the dark, but could Todd Carney be tempted with that kind of money at our disposal.'"
Bridge or Grix??...You can dream!!...
Think the likes of Cooper or Blythe would be the best you would get out of us.....Also possible a deal sending a few promising youngsters (the Evans twins, Gareth O'Brien, etc) to Cas on loan would be attractive to both sides.
To be honest though, the Chase thing seems a little far fetched....Without seeming arrogant, we don't need him next season and when Briers does retire, I suspect we will seek a bigger name than Chase.
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