Westerman had a poor game with regards to defence, but Tomkins was great to watch from a neutral perspective, dont get all the hate for him. I think he's a great talent!

In English?

I think (and I'm knowledgeable on this one) that I'd regard Feka as fat, certainly not Sarge.

Look at your own players, at least Sarge did it in the open (not that clever), Wigan have two players who do this consistently, and sneekily, Coley and O'Loughlin.

With my knowledge of foreign languages, I think I managed to translate

If anything i would say myler does more to win games on his own than tomkins, as myler has a poorer team around him. Tomkins is partnered with a good halfback in looloo, but myler gets stuck with smith who is poor imho.

seems very much like a pointless and sour topic tbh, tomkins demolished us from the back of great forward play i dare say had tomkins and coley not played we probably could have won that game,

Sam tomkins had a great game last night, not sure about 3 world class tries the 1st and 3rd could have been scored by anyone, the 2nd was pretty good though. I'm gunna have another look at the sarge tackle but it did look like he went down like a sack of spuds from a perfectly ok tackle from where i was stood. hope this isnt the start of diving creeping into our game.

to be fair there was nothing ok about it.

id be surprised if sarge plays against quins

Like i say i havent seen the replay yet but to me it just looked like a hard but fair challenge.

And they dont have it on the replay, hopefully be on boots and all.

It looked like cheap afters to me ....

Spot on.

A big shot with the shoulder...However Tomkins didn't have the ball.

Also, if a prop performaned a ''perfectly ok tackle'' on a halfback the size of Tomkins, how could Tomkins possibly be accused of diving?

Just managed to watch the replay on sky plus, it was late but only by a second or so, and there was nothing else wrong with it (not high, dangerous etc). Still not sure why tomkins has to make such a big deal of it there must have been 50 harder tackles in that game that players just sprung straight up from.

The tackle was late. A little to late to be an accident. It was a prop trying to rough up a half back, no intent to do any damage just trying to put him off his game.

As for Tomkins. I can see him getting sin binned for dissent a few more times, which should hopefully settle down the gobby streak in him.

Sam Tomkins is a very good player.

But those 50 tackles were made on players who were expecting impact.

Tomkins had released the ball and relaxed as he wasn't expecting any type of collision. It would be expected that ANY player would be injured by a prop forward's shoulder when physically unprepared, especially a half back as slight as Tomkins.

I'm not sure what some Castleford supporters are struggling to grasp?

A bit late Tompkins had time to boil an egg before he was poleaxed. For someone what prides himself on sensible posts' I'm afraid this is not one of your better ones, I am being diplomatic put your post on the Wigin board and see the response.

Not all of them were, there are always late challenges throughout the game, and if anyone on the pitch should be prepared for them its a halfback (as they suffer them more often than not) if everytime a late challenge on a halfback resulted in an injury there would be 4 or 5 injuries in a game for them. Dont know why you keep going on about tompins size if he's playing he should be able to cope with being tackled. burrow and chase are tiny and i've seen both of them hit off the ball (in some case with far worse challenges) and they just bounce back up everytime, though that does of course mean they are less likely to be awarded a penalty.

Only Seargent produced a late challenge, that's it.

Tomkins has shown that he can cope being tackled this season, but Tomkins was tackled illegally last and it's natural for him to be injured.

Simple as that, I don't get why a minority of you can't accept it.

It was a second, in the time it takes from him passing the ball to sargent hitting him you cant count past one. Plenty of far later challenges go unpunished. I not arguing it wasnt late but its a second no more. As for puttting it on the wigan board well last week i had insults and abuse thrown at me on there site for having the audacity to say that it was wrong to label every single wire fan as scum. Apparentley all wire fans are scum and if you support cas you arent allowed to have an opinion there board. My opinion is here for all to see, having dozens of one eyed wigan fans throwing insults at me and my town for hours on end achieves nothing and will just make for an even more intense disliking between the two clubs.

You're a Cas fan, nobody expects you to be able to count past one.

It was an illegal challenge, i dont think anyone is arguing that (at least not after they have watched the replay), it was definatley late (but not dangerous or high) awarding a penalty was the correct call.

Sargent has received a formal caution

No other action taken

...and here endeth the thread

What's the problem with Tomkins then?

Did anyone listen to Tomkins interview after the game?

I recommend that you do.

He was articulate and quite funny in his comments on that tackle. No arrogance whatsoever, just a kid who loves playing Rugby League.