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| Quote ="bazzo44"Next year is the test, if you loose RC, DC, and JT it will be hard to hit the top eight, trust me we have been there, but good luck and well done last night, no one can take that away from you'"
Daryl Clarke going nowhere. Steve Gill confirmed on radio interview the other day that he will be playing at cas next year.
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| Quote ="bazzo44"Next year is the test, if you loose RC, DC, and JT it will be hard to hit the top eight, trust me we have been there, but good luck and well done last night, no one can take that away from you'"
Daryl Clark is staying and Rangi will until he says otherwise. But he's happy here according to Steve Gill.
JT is the only one going and he can be replaced.
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| I have a soft spot for Castleford, always been a good grafting team with no big name stars or egos, and I really feared the worst when you appointed that gobbin to replace Terry Matterson. I thought John Kear would be the ideal replacement but Daryl Powell will do just as well, I think.
Good win over us for you Friday, the play offs are a good possibility if you carry that on
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| I stated a few weeks back that Daryl Clarke will definitely be in a Cas shirt next year and Rangi til at least the end of the year but maybe longer. I just hope they both do now.
Maybe last year will be there last. If the season doesnt go to plan like the last few years, more than likeley our best crop of players will be annoyed with the same old bottom 6 finish. Just hope Powell is the man to change that.
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| In respect of this thread, I think we were desperately unlucky at the beginning of this season not to have more points on the board.
We should have got something from Hull KR away, we should have beaten Wigan at home (where wrong decisions cost us) and we should have had a penalty vs Catalan to get us a win for the head high shot on Hauraki.
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| Quote ="El Rey"Powell is a far better coach than the clown you had before him.
I am glad he's got a chance to shine.'"
He has certainly turned the club on it's head and i believe if the club back him with squad building next season then we can really kick on
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| Quote ="miscreant"How high up the table would Cas' be ? Top eight for sure, I feel.
Still, thank goodness the change WAS made eventually.'"
So who was going to give way to you to allow that - come on be realistic, top eight perhaps - for sure is either plain arrogant or daft.
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| Quote ="Fully"Daryl Clark is staying and Rangi will until he says otherwise. But he's happy here according to Steve Gill.
JT is the only one going and he can be replaced.'"
My god more faces than the Town Hall clock - you were defending the Club and the Board when Millward was in charge - now you know what players are thinking - obviously your hotline to Millward has been re-routed to Powell, we mortals are not worthy.
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| Quote ="Trouble Darn T Lane"He has certainly turned the club on it's head and i believe if the club back him with squad building next season then we can really kick on'"
Think it's possible.
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| Quote ="Fully"In respect of this thread, I think we were desperately unlucky at the beginning of this season not to have more points on the board.
We should have got something from Hull KR away, we should have beaten Wigan at home (where wrong decisions cost us) and we should have had a penalty vs Catalan to get us a win for the head high shot on Hauraki.'"
Nail on head right there ^^^.
If it's true that luck balances over the season then we've still got some of the good kind to come this year and might well make the eight.
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| Quote ="vastman"My god more faces than the Town Hall clock - you were defending the Club and the Board when Millward was in charge - now you know what players are thinking - obviously your hotline to Millward has been re-routed to Powell, we mortals are not worthy.'"
I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, other than that it's a pretty pee poor attempt at trolling (if you can even stretch to that) about something completely irrelevant that has not even been mentioned in this thread.
Perhaps in your rush to respond to every post on this thread (trolling) you forgot to actually READ the posts/thread.
If you had you will notice that I used the phrase "according to Steve Gill" in my post. Not according to Fully.
Secondly, it has nothing to do with what players are thinking or even Daryl Powell. In fact, the post that I quoted didn't even mention this. You're just making things up now and it's complete gobbledegook.
The info about Clark was referred to an interview on 5Towns FM last Thursday. Ditto Jordan Thompson. If you can be bothered to actually listen to it, it will illustrate that you've just made yourself look a complete fool........................
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/ian-millward-hails-salford-target-4862090
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The article lost all credibility with me after the first line "ian millward know what makes rangi chase tick"
He certainly didnt know while he was in charge, the same can be said of most of the squad with that buffoon in charge.
Move along, nothing to see here
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| If the man knew anything he would still be in a job coaching SL, but he shared all his knowledge with the players leading his team to the foot of the table, manly because his best quality was alienating the players.
Over the last few years Chase has been going to Wigan, Leeds Saints, St,George, & now High flying Salford,?? with there new Dr, shouting about how he is going to spend what he wants & not let the salary cap hinder him, if he does sign Chase, the Salford salary cap will be lessened by a massive chunk, & Cas will be receiving a massive check from there new boss, that's if he can do what the other clubs failed to do & that's get a visa.
What the good man should be doing first of all is paying all the other companies what Salford owe money to, then people might think more about the man & the club,( but that wont happen,) if he does break the cap like he says he will, the club should be hammered with a massive points deduction & fined, because he has made his intentions clear.
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| Quote ="frank5613"If the man knew anything he would still be in a job coaching SL, but he shared all his knowledge with the players leading his team to the foot of the table, manly because his best quality was alienating the players.
Over the last few years Chase has been going to Wigan, Leeds Saints, St,George, & now High flying Salford,?? with there new Dr, shouting about how he is going to spend what he wants & not let the salary cap hinder him, if he does sign Chase, the Salford salary cap will be lessened by a massive chunk, & Cas will be receiving a massive check from there new boss, that's if he can do what the other clubs failed to do & that's get a visa.
What the good man should be doing first of all is paying all the other companies what Salford owe money to, then people might think more about the man & the club,( but that wont happen,) if he does break the cap like he says he will, the club should be hammered with a massive points deduction & fined, because he has made his intentions clear.'"
God bitterness at its finest!
Tell you what we'll just keep SL how it is aye same teams at the top same at the bottom, carry on with the predictable playoffs and grand final and take a good comfy seat while we all watch RL die a slow and painful death!
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| Quote ="RED LEAGUE"God bitterness at its finest!
Tell you what we'll just keep SL how it is aye same teams at the top same at the bottom, carry on with the predictable playoffs and grand final and take a good comfy seat while we all watch RL die a slow and painful death!'"
Does this mean that you dont want the debts owed by your club paying ?
You sound just like the wakey lot , who btw are at it again running up huge debts according to their own fans. that attitude stinks just as does the docs attitude to the rules and the salary cap
Jog on sonny and enjoy your team of veterans
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| Quote ="biggunbrad"Does this mean that you dont want the debts owed by your club paying ?
You sound just like the wakey lot , who btw are at it again running up huge debts according to their own fans. that attitude stinks just as does the docs attitude to the rules and the salary cap
Jog on sonny and enjoy your team of veterans'"
What Red League failed to mention is that Dr. Koukash [uis[/u paying the debts of the OLD regime under a voluntary CVA.
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Exactly. To suggest Dr Koukash isnt paying debts (which were racked up under the previous regime I might add) is ignorant and even libellous.
Anyway another Rangi related article in the M.E.N, with Mr Barker seemingly confident that deal has been done.
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Anyway another Rangi related article in the M.E.N, with Mr Barker seemingly confident that deal has been done.
www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... ---4862141
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| It is highly unlikely that Koukash will be paying back all of the money owed. A CVA normally writes off 50% or more of the debt and it pays it back in pathetically small amounts.
How I love the UK libel laws. You can't libel Koukash because he has publicly stated that he is a cheat. So I say he has cheated his taxes, cheats companies out of money he owes and cheats on his wife. Why? Because his reputation cannot be tarnished because he has already admitted that his is a cheat.
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| Quote ="rhintintin"It is highly unlikely that Koukash will be paying back all of the money owed. A CVA normally writes off 50% or more of the debt and it pays it back in pathetically small amounts.
How I love the UK libel laws. You can't libel Koukash because he has publicly stated that he is a cheat. So I say he has cheated his taxes, cheats companies out of money he owes and cheats on his wife. Why? Because his reputation cannot be tarnished because he has already admitted that his is a cheat.'"
[urlhttp://www.idealcs.co.uk/salford-city-reds-cva/[/url
Quote [size=125Following lengthy negotiations with new interested parties, ownership of the Salford City reds licence was transferred to a new unconnected company – Salford City Reds (2013) Limited. The main condition, insisted upon by the sports governing body (the RFL), was the agreement to repay the debts of all non-associate creditors of Salford Football Club (1914) Limited in full.
The reasons for the debt repayment to be structured in this manner is to enable the new regime to service the inherited debt burden without compromising their ambitious rebuilding plans.[/size.'"
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| Quote ="Fully"I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, other than that it's a pretty pee poor attempt at trolling (if you can even stretch to that) about something completely irrelevant that has not even been mentioned in this thread.
Perhaps in your rush to respond to every post on this thread (trolling) you forgot to actually READ the posts/thread.
If you had you will notice that I used the phrase "according to Steve Gill" in my post. Not according to Fully.
Secondly, it has nothing to do with what players are thinking or even Daryl Powell. In fact, the post that I quoted didn't even mention this. You're just making things up now and it's complete gobbledegook.
The info about Clark was referred to an interview on 5Towns FM last Thursday. Ditto Jordan Thompson. If you can be bothered to actually listen to it, it will illustrate that you've just made yourself look a complete fool........................'"
Fairly long winded response to a post you claim not to have understood!
You understood it alright.
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| When the question of debts are brought up it seems strange that when a fan of the club in question answers the comment , it's always the fault of the last regime, but the truth is that the debts were the clubs, Salford City Reds, even though you have new owners, the club is still playing under the name of Salford City reds, the same as Bradford Bulls & Wakefield Trinity Wildcats.
It's an easy get out, rack up massive debt & go under, hoping some one will come along & put money into the New debt free club, Mr Glover says he is paying some of the old debt off, & your good Dr, seems to have agreed to pay them back over a large number of years, I suppose the people who are owed the debt are very happy to be receiving a few pound a month.
The Bulls debacle is the worst, suspiciously selling the ground to the RFL, for god knows how much, just before going under, but no one knows where that money went, & for the rest of it's assets, not allowed to be sold to pay the debt, so the team didn't suffer by getting broken up was a disgrace, all efforts should have been made to pay there debts.
I know it's hard on the fans when there club is going through problems, just like my club are doing, the difference is were paying our debt, & not walking away, if we go under you can give us the some flack.
When you read the fans from Salford coming on & saying were buying him, & him & him, & money is no object, just spare a thought for those people who have lost out financially because the Salford City Reds were so badly run, lets hope the three NEW clubs are better run in the years a head.
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| Quote ="frank5613"When the question of debts are brought up it seems strange that when a fan of the club in question answers the comment , it's always the fault of the last regime, but the truth is that the debts were the clubs, Salford City Reds, even though you have new owners, the club is still playing under the name of Salford City reds, the same as Bradford Bulls & Wakefield Trinity Wildcats.
It's an easy get out, rack up massive debt & go under, hoping some one will come along & put money into the New debt free club, Mr Glover says he is paying some of the old debt off, & your good Dr, seems to have agreed to pay them back over a large number of years, I suppose the people who are owed the debt are very happy to be receiving a few pound a month.
The Bulls debacle is the worst, suspiciously selling the ground to the RFL, for god knows how much, just before going under, but no one knows where that money went, & for the rest of it's assets, not allowed to be sold to pay the debt, so the team didn't suffer by getting broken up was a disgrace, all efforts should have been made to pay there debts.
I know it's hard on the fans when there club is going through problems, just like my club are doing, the difference is were paying our debt, & not walking away, if we go under you can give us the some flack.
When you read the fans from Salford coming on & saying were buying him, & him & him, & money is no object, just spare a thought for those people who have lost out financially because the Salford City Reds were so badly run, lets hope the three NEW clubs are better run in the years a head.'"
My god! I actually agree with a Cas fan! Absolutely Bob on mate, I and I think all the Salford fans were disgusted when we heard the council were going to bail us out! But thanks god the Dr did, I agree the debts that are already in place are being paid back and granted too slow for the Salford tax payer to notice the difference. However we never got in the same situation as Wakey and the Bulls and i thank god. I have to admit it warmed my heart to see how much the RL community rounded and helped these clubs! If we put all this aside and realise what teh Dr did by saving us did and how it can help our league, yeah we may get Chase from you but look at it another way thats 300K+ transfer fee u guys get to get your ship in order and spend on promoting your great club! A player is a player but the club is more important. i wish the Wire had given us 300K+ for Stef!! We need to all stick together in these times when RL is strugglign and help each other!!
Good luck for the rest of the season and hope u make the top 8
Salford fan in peace, apologies for any previosu posts!
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| Quote ="frank5613"When you read the fans from Salford coming on & saying were buying him, & him & him, & money is no object, just spare a thought for those people who have lost out financially because the Salford City Reds were so badly run'"
I would spare a thought for those who have lost out financially,if I knew the full facts.
Unlike the conspiracy involving the RFL with Crusaders - where your former CEO Ferres was praised for helping that club move from South Wales,owing the coach and local businesses money,to Wrexham,where they owed solicitors,doctors and hotels et al.- and at Bradford - the financial difficulties,at Salford,seemed to have arisen due to making efforts to conform to Licensing criteria and find a new stadia within a certain timeframe and financial problems ensued.
The people owed money by the previous regime were 2 players and HMRC.I believe the plan was to obtain a further loan from the council and clear the debt.[url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/20932985Reminder[/url
I don't think there was any deliberate delay in payment - unlike the Wrexham scenario where players are still owed money.( The people at Wrexham known to the soccer fans as Toss'n' Robbers - Moss and Roberts )
Will you be venting your anger and frustration with the newly formed North Wales Crusaders ?
Should I be upset that neither Bradford or yourselves have funded a new stadia: and should have all that spare money ?
I agree,people should pay what they owe - but it ain't a fair world.
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