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| Power shift long has gone towards Union (once unpaid when time in league began) now the biggest payer & calling the shots in rugby. League will be the poor relation unless more money comes into RL at all levels. NRL is the only hope, can they ask a few up & coming Union talents to retire & take up Rugby League??
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| There are a fair few NRL players with RU backgrounds as juniors. I'd say RU here has pull way beyond money due to the chances of playing for the Wallabies being pretty high if you area a regular in one of the Super 15 teams.
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| Think the last big union player linked to the NRL was Quade Cooper. He was asking for big money from paramatta. Then the eels saw him play in the world cup.
Quade Cooper value dropped massively and paramatta dropped interest.
NRL teams can attract Australian Union players but I don't think there is much interest to be honest. They are not gonna take a risk on someone hoping he can become a very good league player.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"That has been mentioned by Danny Lockwood in League Express. His work permit is for RL - he is in effect an illegal alien !'"
He should be deported
Quote ="Tigerade"Quote ="Beverley red"Surely Solomona will have been in the UK on a work permit? that won't be valid for Union as he can not meet any criteria for a permit as he has no relevant experience in that sport, just deport him.'"
I like it
Quote ="mrpurfect"first they said he had retired then resigned now fired, rather than keep quiet they keep changing their story as they realise their legal position is weakening?'" '"
They certainly do.
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| Good try last night.
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| Not looking good for Sale.
Castleford have emails showing that Sale initially offered 200k for Solomona. They then withdrew the offer claiming that their legal advisors confirmed Solomona would be free to play RU if he walked away from his contract, and offered Castleford 50k for a "quick and quiet deal".
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Not looking good for Sale.
Castleford have emails showing that Sale initially offered 200k for Solomona. They then withdrew the offer claiming that their legal advisors confirmed Solomona would be free to play RU if he walked away from his contract, and offered Castleford 50k for a "quick and quiet deal".'"
They're in deep now. Diamond has also claimed that Solomona 'retired' from rugby league, then changed his mine and said that Cas 'fired' him. Oh dear me.
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| The facts right or wrong have no relevance on the issue, it is all down to who has best silvery tonged ambulance chaser to persuade the judge/jury on the day. It is how our system works you might have all the moral high ground but if you cant convince the court on the day you are stuffed.
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One thing for sure is that Diamond isnt looking too good in any of this and he comes across as a stereo typical Union w****.
Everything that League fans despise about that sport.
It does appear that Cas have a strong case and Diamond may have cost his club plenty.
I'm not a Cas fan (understatement) but I hope that they wipe the floor with the Sale representatives.
As Beverley Red says they will need a top legal team and that increases the stakes further, which is probably part of the gamble taken by Sale.
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One thing for sure is that Diamond isnt looking too good in any of this and he comes across as a stereo typical Union w****.
Everything that League fans despise about that sport.
It does appear that Cas have a strong case and Diamond may have cost his club plenty.
I'm not a Cas fan (understatement) but I hope that they wipe the floor with the Sale representatives.
As Beverley Red says they will need a top legal team and that increases the stakes further, which is probably part of the gamble taken by Sale.
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| Diamond seems to be Castleford's biggest asset in this case.
If these emails are genuine, he has aided the court to determine Castleford's minimum financial loss, as Sale offered 200k.
He has also completely screwed Sale's argument that Solomona was free to play RU with no repercussions. Why offer to pay Castleford if they genuinely believed Solomona could sign for nothing?
I wonder if Solomona knew that Sale withdrew their offer of 200k and changed it to 50k? If so, I can't understand how he is so angry it was declined. My guess is that Sale and Solomona's agent have not disclosed their tactics to him.
If I was in Denny Solomona's shoes, I'd be laying as much blame at the door of Clarke and Sale as possible. His best hope is to convince the court that Clarke did not fully inform him of the communications between Sale and Castleford and that he was misled, manipulated and coerced into breaching his contract based on the incorrect information he was provided by Clarke and Sale. He needs to convince the Court that Clarke and Sale duped him into doing something (breaching his contract) that he wouldn't otherwise have considered and he is therefore also an innocent party.
It might even be true.........
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| for any RL fans who think we should be pally with the RU code remember this quote from Sale Sharks Head of Rugby - Steve Diamond:-
"The club are prepared to pay £50,000 immediately and you will release Denny from his contract at the end of September after your last match. Hopefully you will see the sense in a quick, quiet deal."
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| Quote ="Tigerade"for any RL fans who think we should be pally with the RU code remember this quote from Sale Sharks Head of Rugby - Steve Diamond:-
"The club are prepared to pay £50,000 immediately and you will release Denny from his contract at the end of September after your last match. Hopefully you will see the sense in a quick, quiet deal."'"
To be honest, this latest spat doesn't change my opinion of the R.U. lot.
I haven't got over how they Royally shafted us when they went "professional".
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| I really can't see this ending well for castleford. Sale sharks are an international brand, recognised the world over and they wouldn't want to damage that if they thought what they were doing was wrong. They would have sought the best legal advice possible so they must be pretty happy they will get off with it. You only need to check their website to see how professional they are. Compare it to castlefords which looks like the work experience lad made with Microsoft front page to see the difference between the 2 clubs. Cas just need to bite the bullet and ensure next time they unearth a gem, pay him what he asks for which by the way, wasn't unreasonable.
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| 60k isn't much for a record breaking top try scorer. I agree cas were rather tight there.
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| Quote ="Lebron James". Sale sharks are an international brand, recognised the world over .
Regards
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You are a real comedian my Friend. In no world are Sale an international Brand. They aren't even recognised in Manchester.
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| Quote ="jools"60k isn't much for a record breaking top try scorer. I agree cas were rather tight there.'"
You realise that was signed before his record breaking season.....
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| Quote ="Lebron James"I really can't see this ending well for castleford. Sale sharks are an international brand, recognised the world over and they wouldn't want to damage that if they thought what they were doing was wrong. They would have sought the best legal advice possible so they must be pretty happy they will get off with it. You only need to check their website to see how professional they are. Compare it to castlefords which looks like the work experience lad made with Microsoft front page to see the difference between the 2 clubs. Cas just need to bite the bullet and ensure next time they unearth a gem, pay him what he asks for which by the way, wasn't unreasonable.
Regards
King James'"
Disagree
Sale Sharks sit 10th in the Aviva Premiership.
They are hardly "Manchester United" or "Wigan".
They are a decent English top flight club, not in the same caliber as Leicester or Bath .
Cas should no way "bite the bullet" or there will be an exodus from the sport.
I cannot believe that ANY RL fan could holy the view that "King James" does and you should immediately abdicate
your self titled throne
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| Quote ="jools"60k isn't much for a record breaking top try scorer. I agree cas were rather tight there.'"
He was also a gamble when Cas signed him and this was his first season he really looked like a record breaker (with thanks to Dorn/Gale/Webster). For all anyone knows the club might have been planning to offer him an improved contract/extension next season however when a player comes demanding more cash or they'll walk out on their contract its one way to quickly stop that from happening.
Quote ="Lebron James"You only need to check their website to see how professional they are. Compare it to castlefords which looks like the work experience lad made with Microsoft front page to see the difference between the 2 clubs.'"
I know the Cas website isn't all singing all dancing however if you believe the Sharks website is professional you're clueless.
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| Solomona's contract with Tigers was £49,000 last season, rising to £60,000 this year and then £70,000 in 2018, the final year of his deal.
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| Quote ="Lebron James"They would have sought the best legal advice possible so they must be pretty happy they will get off with it.'"
Yeah - I wonder if this legal team advised Sale to to put a bid in for 200K and then, after it was turned down, put another offer in for only 50K ? Great idea.
I'll tell you what I recon. The "best legal advice possible" advised Sale Sharks that little old Cas Tigers will buckle and won't take you on in court.
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| Quote ="invmatt" I know the Cas website isn't all singing all dancing however if you believe the Sharks website is professional you're clueless.'"
I just took a look. Not particularly impressive.
This Lebron bloke is just a Rah, Rah boy trying to stir up trouble.
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| Quote ="Lebron James"Sale sharks wouldn't want to damage that if they thought what they were doing was wrong.
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No, of course not. Offering £50,000 for a "quick and quiet" deal (when they have previously offered £200,000) is exactly what a company does when they think they have done nothing wrong.
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| Quote ="Lebron James"I really can't see this ending well for castleford. Sale sharks are an international brand, recognised the world over and they wouldn't want to damage that if they thought what they were doing was wrong. They would have sought the best legal advice possible so they must be pretty happy they will get off with it. You only need to check their website to see how professional they are. Compare it to castlefords which looks like the work experience lad made with Microsoft front page to see the difference between the 2 clubs. Cas just need to bite the bullet and ensure next time they unearth a gem, pay him what he asks for which by the way, wasn't unreasonable.
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King James'"
Ah yes, money = sense. A website really sets the moral standard here, you numpty.
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